To Java or not to Java
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
Does the avg. user need Java installed?
No. If you not develop on Java you don’t need their virtual machine installed. The most web app using Java and JSP are used in the intranet corporate networks. AFAIK nobody uses applets or Java swing anymore.
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PogoboyKramer wrote:
I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one
Why would you want to do that?
Some members have sensitive eyeballs.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Some members have sensitive eyeballs.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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PogoboyKramer wrote:
Some members have sensitive eyeballs.
That almost calls out for a misinterpretation, but I will leave it at that out of respect for the sensitive members... :-D
Pun was fully intended :-D
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Tea is better.
You MUST be english... :laugh: Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
PogoboyKramer wrote:
You MUST be english... Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)
Timmies, the fuel of Champions. :D I can't go near work without passing 4.
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
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PogoboyKramer wrote:
You MUST be english... Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)
Timmies, the fuel of Champions. :D I can't go near work without passing 4.
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
NightJammer wrote:
I can't go near work without passing 4.
You must have a really short commute then.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Yes, but who's.
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
Martin County Florida Clerk of Court's website requires it. I don't mind. Very useful site.
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
Yeah it's really invasive, the .net framework never seems invasive at all by comparison. I avoid the java runtime now like the plague.
“If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
is Java even used for anymore
Much to many peoples' shagrin, the DoD has recently developed two major Intelligence applications (desktop apps, not web apps) using Java. So you need the VM installed and then the app will run. Ug! To make matters worse, we (someone else in the org, not me!) have to figure out how to interface a .NET application with a Java API that one of the applications exposes.
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PogoboyKramer wrote:
I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one
Why would you want to do that?
Saying Java is great because it works with all platforms is like saying anal sex is great because it works with all genders.
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To Java, or not To Java... That is the question! Whether 'tis nobler in the browser to suffer The crashes and failures of faulty coding, Or to rise up against a sea of horrible applets, And by blocking, end them.
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
Uninstalled JAVA a few years ago and haven't missed it a bit. Of course, I am above average - just ask my mom. YS
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
We have used an applet since Java 1.1 for the last 10 years. 99% of the applet code is still 1.1 compatible, but the server code has followed the update path. It has worked through all browsers: IE 4.0 - 8.0, Netscape 4.x-Firefox 3.6.x, Safari, etc. It has worked through all OSes: Windows 95-Windows 7, Mac OS X, Linux, etc. It has worked through all client JVM updates: Old Microsoft JVM, Sun 1.1-1.7 The 1.1 plugin and higher allows nice interaction between Java and Javascript, so it integrates nicely into the hosting site. The newest plugins allow direct manipulation of the browser DOM! It would probably work on the iPhone and iPad if Apple would let Java roll out there. It has probably saved us 100 man years of wasted maintenance to support all of the browser/OS variations listed above. It just works...
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
I make use of the java runtime to play online chess. What I don't get is that Sun's Java implementation is something like 90Mbytes when installed, however, microsoft's implementation only used to be roughly 5Mbytes. Also, the font rendering in Sun's Java are shite compared to Microsoft's.
Nobody can get the truth out of me because even I don't know what it is. I keep myself in a constant state of utter confusion. - Col. Flagg
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Saying Java is great because it works with all platforms is like saying anal sex is great because it works with all genders.
hahaha very clever, I say case closed! And so much for the G-Rated topic mentioned a few posts above too :D
--------- Andre Sanches "UNIX is friendly, it's just picky about its friends"
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Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.
Todd Smith
I find that unfortunately there a lot of apps that are used on the internet. I watch the little circle around the coffee cup and sigh when I see it.
ragnaroknrol: Yes, but comparing a rabid wolverine gnawing on your face while stabbing you with a fountain pen to Vista is likely to make the wolverine look good, so it isn't exactly that big of a compliment.
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Saying Java is great because it works with all platforms is like saying anal sex is great because it works with all genders.
haha... Now .NET also runs on Linux using Mono... Gender (sorry Platform) Agnostic... ;P
----- AJ