How hard is it to read emails?
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
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Or how about when you call someone, they don't answer, so you leave them a (detailed) v-mail. They call you back a few minutes later with something like, "I see that you called. What's up?" :doh:
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Or how about when you call someone, they don't answer, so you leave them a (detailed) v-mail. They call you back a few minutes later with something like, "I see that you called. What's up?" :doh:
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
I am guilty of that one a lot. But then I just can't stand long voice mails. "Hi this is John Doe I am calling about that thing in that place that we need to do. " add 2 minutes of babble, "call me back at 222 3 *&($" great didn't get that last part now I have to listen to the whole thing again.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude?
Because it's cold and hard? That could be a definition of rude.
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I am guilty of that one a lot. But then I just can't stand long voice mails. "Hi this is John Doe I am calling about that thing in that place that we need to do. " add 2 minutes of babble, "call me back at 222 3 *&($" great didn't get that last part now I have to listen to the whole thing again.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
"Hi this is John Doe I am calling about that thing in that place that we need to do. " add 2 minutes of babble, "call me back at 222 3 *&($" great didn't get that last part now I have to listen to the whole thing again.
Exactly. It's a problem with that medium in modern times. Only use v-mail when you *have* to convey tone, it's something they are *really* looking forward to hearing about, or they're so bored they want to listen to v-mail :-)
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Example Email:"Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
To which the obvious reply is: "No, I said I can't make Wednesday, so it'll have to be Thursday, and I can't stand the service at Longhorns, so we'll have to go somewhere else." The ensuing discussion will sort it out once and for all. Sometimes, the only way to deal with slight confusion is to turn it into utter chaos.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
"Hi this is John Doe I am calling about that thing in that place that we need to do. " add 2 minutes of babble, "call me back at 222 3 *&($" great didn't get that last part now I have to listen to the whole thing again.
Exactly. It's a problem with that medium in modern times. Only use v-mail when you *have* to convey tone, it's something they are *really* looking forward to hearing about, or they're so bored they want to listen to v-mail :-)
I used to work away from home a lot. I'd get back Friday to 'you have 843 new messages' #beep# 'no new messages'
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<Jim Crafton...> wrote... >Yes, I am, thanks for asking! >So Thursday is bad for you too? I am not receiving your emails, hence I can't reply to them.
Regards, Nish
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Oh, So you are not receiving my emails, otherwise I was going to tell you that, Thursday is bad for me also...
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Talking to a customer via email. Somewhere at the end "Can we meet tomorrow and talk it through over a cup of cofee?". In the reply I get that my ideeas/sugestions are OK but he would like to meet in person!!! Obviously the guy didn't read the email till the end. And no this is not a blotes rant it's a Exchange rant. :)
I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
If you are finding this is a problem then take those lemons and make lemonade. Instead of getting pissed off, or worked up, just have some fun with it. Be imaginative. Depending on how well you know the recipient, the following might be a good example. Stick the following words towards the end of the email. "BTW, I'd love to sleep with your wife. Is that something you can sort out for me?" When said person calls back having clearly not read the email (but claiming they have). Just ask... "Did everything in the mail sound ok? You don't have any issues?" You can ad lib it from there.... -Richard
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I just got your email
There's a difference between getting an email, reading it... and understanding it... So actually, your guy didn't lie, he just didn't tell the whole truth...
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I just got your email
There's a difference between getting an email, reading it... and understanding it... So actually, your guy didn't lie, he just didn't tell the whole truth...
The problem with contrived examples is people try to pick them apart rather than focus on the meaning the example is set to portray. I know you are only kidding in your reply, of course, but still :-p
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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If you are finding this is a problem then take those lemons and make lemonade. Instead of getting pissed off, or worked up, just have some fun with it. Be imaginative. Depending on how well you know the recipient, the following might be a good example. Stick the following words towards the end of the email. "BTW, I'd love to sleep with your wife. Is that something you can sort out for me?" When said person calls back having clearly not read the email (but claiming they have). Just ask... "Did everything in the mail sound ok? You don't have any issues?" You can ad lib it from there.... -Richard
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I once worked for a guy who didn't always respond to e-mails, even if they contained pointed requests for timely action. Sometimes he'd get on it right away. Other times, it's like he hadn't even opened Outlook. Over time, however, one of my colleagues noticed a pattern: If your action item was either the first line or the last line in the message, you'd likely get a response. Anything in the middle of the message would be ignored. Not having anything to lose, we started writing our messages to this manager using the proposed formula. First line or last line if you wanted attention. Put pretty much anything you want in the middle. And it worked.
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I just read your message and have to ask: Haven’t you tired from all these Lotus Notes rants?
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
Haven’t you tired from all these Lotus Notes rants?
Until you tell me that the Lotus Notes development team has been executed for their war crimes, IBM's headquarters have been torn down and replaced by a brothel, and every copy of Bloatus Goatse uninstalled and replaced by Thunderbird... no.
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
I suggest it matters where in the email the critical sentence is located. Busy people often only read the first sentence of each paragraph. Make it easy for people not to miss the critical part. It would be easier to give a better critique if you posted one of your messages in its entirety (made anonymous of course). I am assuming there is more content than the sentence you quote.
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input somewhere in the email " donuts". food and money usually get people's attention ( Sex would be a HR no no :) )
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The problem with contrived examples is people try to pick them apart rather than focus on the meaning the example is set to portray. I know you are only kidding in your reply, of course, but still :-p
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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I once worked for a guy who didn't always respond to e-mails, even if they contained pointed requests for timely action. Sometimes he'd get on it right away. Other times, it's like he hadn't even opened Outlook. Over time, however, one of my colleagues noticed a pattern: If your action item was either the first line or the last line in the message, you'd likely get a response. Anything in the middle of the message would be ignored. Not having anything to lose, we started writing our messages to this manager using the proposed formula. First line or last line if you wanted attention. Put pretty much anything you want in the middle. And it worked.
There's a particular manager in my office that's much the same. Anything important you need to convey should be in the first paragraph of the e-mail. That paragraph can be no more than 3 sentences. Lately, I've stopped including the rest of the e-mail and just stick with that opening paragraph. He has a nasty habit of printing out the long ones, then coming into my office and essentially doing a "cooperative reading" off the printed copy, reading out loud and asking questions as he goes. Kind of defeats the purpose.
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It seems I am a poor communicator. I am constantly getting phone calls from people who state they have read my email and then proceed with a conversation as if they have never read any of my emails. Why is it that I am the jerk for suggesting they re-read my email and then call back when they are ready. Why is the initial lie O.K. but the cold, hard, honest truth rude? Example Email: "Wednesday at noon is fine. We can meet up at Longhorn's." Example Call after email: "I just got your email. Can we meet Wednesday at noon? Will that work with you? Is Longhorn's O.K.?"
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
LOL! You answer your phone? How quaint.
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If you are finding this is a problem then take those lemons and make lemonade. Instead of getting pissed off, or worked up, just have some fun with it. Be imaginative. Depending on how well you know the recipient, the following might be a good example. Stick the following words towards the end of the email. "BTW, I'd love to sleep with your wife. Is that something you can sort out for me?" When said person calls back having clearly not read the email (but claiming they have). Just ask... "Did everything in the mail sound ok? You don't have any issues?" You can ad lib it from there.... -Richard
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