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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Potato, pothato:

    string @int = "Hi, John";

    utf8-cpp

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    Yeah - like I said, it would never even cross my mind to do soemthing like that. It's just stupid.

    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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    • R realJSOP

      I wasn't ready for this:

      Dim [step] as String

      I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

      modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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      It could be worse, at least you're not having to rewrite in VB6.

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      • R realJSOP

        I wasn't ready for this:

        Dim [step] as String

        I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
        -----
        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

        modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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        Chris Losinger
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        SQL allows that, too. SELECT [Date] FROM History

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        • R realJSOP

          I wasn't ready for this:

          Dim [step] as String

          I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
          -----
          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
          -----
          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

          modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          but amazingly bad practice...

          For manual code, yes! However, this feature is extremely useful for generative programming (where your code generates code based on user inputs, compiles it and runs it) Thankfully, this feature is supported in both C# and VB.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            but amazingly bad practice...

            For manual code, yes! However, this feature is extremely useful for generative programming (where your code generates code based on user inputs, compiles it and runs it) Thankfully, this feature is supported in both C# and VB.

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            For manual code, yes!

            For ANY code - yes. It's like using goto. Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            • C Chris Losinger

              SQL allows that, too. SELECT [Date] FROM History

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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              realJSOP
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              Yeah, and I hate it there, too. I'm not a fan of SQl either, as long as we're on the topic.

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              • R realJSOP

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                For manual code, yes!

                For ANY code - yes. It's like using goto. Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                -----
                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                It's like saying that assembler should not use jump statements or certain constructs. When you are auto-generating code which is not supposed to be read by anyone (sort of like ASP.NET does) this feature works well. The neat thing is that codedom automatically takes care of this.

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                • R realJSOP

                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  For manual code, yes!

                  For ANY code - yes. It's like using goto. Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                  -----
                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  Simon_Whale
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

                  Best advice ever!

                  As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    I wasn't ready for this:

                    Dim [step] as String

                    I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                    modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                    Ahhh yes, cricket. Such things happen so you can learn humility. OTOH, at least you're not using FORTRAN or COBOL! BTW, I'm a slow learner.

                    CQ de W5ALT

                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      VB is a scurge on mankind

                      Scourge, surely?

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                      You do realize that correcting John's spelling when he's pissed about something is about as safe as telling Chuck Norris to keep off the grass?

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                        Potato, pothato:

                        string @int = "Hi, John";

                        utf8-cpp

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        #24

                        There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing. If I found my minion pulling a trick like that, I would leave his head mounted on a pike outside the castle wall as a warning to the applicants to assume his position.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • R realJSOP

                          I wasn't ready for this:

                          Dim [step] as String

                          I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                          modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          almost any 3, 4 or 5-letter combination is a keyword in VB. Without this feature you would be restricted to 1- and 2-letter identifiers, and really long ones. :)

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing. If I found my minion pulling a trick like that, I would leave his head mounted on a pike outside the castle wall as a warning to the applicants to assume his position.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            realJSOP
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                            I have a strong feeling that you and I are so much alike that we could almost finish each other's sentences.

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I wasn't ready for this:

                              Dim [step] as String

                              I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                              -----
                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                              modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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                              Steve Echols
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                              I also have to port stuff from C# to VB ( :( ): Public Enum Status Success Warning [Error] End Enum Without the [], I would have to name Error something else (Fubar comes to mind), and change every piece of code that uses it.


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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                You do realize that correcting John's spelling when he's pissed about something is about as safe as telling Chuck Norris to keep off the grass?

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                You do realize that correcting John's spelling when he's pissed about something is about as safe as telling Chuck Norris to keep off the grass?

                                Actually it's less safe. You can do the latter safely if you word it right, just ask him to one up Jesus by walking on air. :laugh:

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  I wasn't ready for this:

                                  Dim [step] as String

                                  I was shocked and appalled to find out that VB allows you to do this kind of thing - using reserved words as variable names... Not only freakin' amazing, but amazingly bad practice... And you guys should just go ahead and brace yoourselves - after coding our Silverlight project in C# since March (and that is between 90 and 95% completed), my boss had a fit and decided he wanted it converted to VB because that's what everything else in the shop is coded in (and he was the one that okayed C# to begin with). I am (and I think understandably so) quite upset/annoyed/pissed off about it. Expect to see more posts like this as I progress through the conversion. IMHO, VB is a scourge on mankind.

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                  -----
                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                                  modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:55 AM

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                                  You sir are living in your own personal hell, my condolences. :)


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                                    I'm using a web site that converts. For the most part, it does an okay job, but Linq statements tend to freak it out. I have a LOT of linq statements. I hate pretty much everything about VB, so this makes me hate my job. I updated my resume last night. I think my boss doesn't want to learn C#. I recognize that VB abnd C# are pretty much the same, but the differences are infuriating, and I simply don't like coding in it. NOTHING will change my outlook regarding VB. It has no redeeming features.

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    think my boss doesn't want to learn C#

                                    That was the complaint I got from my boss when I moved the teams to c#. We still support the VB apps but at least the move stuck. I have too many years making a living with VB to bitch about it. Just another tool as far as I care.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      It's like saying that assembler should not use jump statements or certain constructs. When you are auto-generating code which is not supposed to be read by anyone (sort of like ASP.NET does) this feature works well. The neat thing is that codedom automatically takes care of this.

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      It is also the only way I know to pass the HttpAttribute "class" (@class=""), which happens to be a reserved word, to be able to use CSS on a custom control defined in a HttpHelper. :thumbsup:

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing. If I found my minion pulling a trick like that, I would leave his head mounted on a pike outside the castle wall as a warning to the applicants to assume his position.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        S Senthil Kumar
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                                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                        There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing

                                        I guess it's meant to be used mostly by automated tools generating source code. I've seen @object used as a variable/parameter name when the type is object, like so

                                        public override void Equals(object @object)
                                        { ... }

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                                          I'm using a web site that converts. For the most part, it does an okay job, but Linq statements tend to freak it out. I have a LOT of linq statements. I hate pretty much everything about VB, so this makes me hate my job. I updated my resume last night. I think my boss doesn't want to learn C#. I recognize that VB abnd C# are pretty much the same, but the differences are infuriating, and I simply don't like coding in it. NOTHING will change my outlook regarding VB. It has no redeeming features.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          GDMFSOB
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                                          Download SharpDevelop its an open source C# IDE that has a built in C# to VB and vice versa converter works like a charm, I write in VB and an constanly too lazy to convert C# to VB manually, or you can get hold of .net reflector, you can reverse engineer the whole project into any .net lanugauge you want in one foul swoop. :)

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