Why VB.Net blah blah... [modified]

[Rama Krishna Vavilala]

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

but amazingly bad practice...

For manual code, yes! However, this feature is extremely useful for generative programming (where your code generates code based on user inputs, compiles it and runs it) Thankfully, this feature is supported in both C# and VB.

[realJSOP]

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

For manual code, yes!

For ANY code - yes. It's like using goto. Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

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[realJSOP]

Yeah, and I hate it there, too. I'm not a fan of SQl either, as long as we're on the topic.

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[Rama Krishna Vavilala]

It's like saying that assembler should not use jump statements or certain constructs. When you are auto-generating code which is not supposed to be read by anyone (sort of like ASP.NET does) this feature works well. The neat thing is that codedom automatically takes care of this.

[Simon_Whale]

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Just because you *can* use it doesn't mean you *should*.

Best advice ever!

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[Dr Walt Fair PE]

Ahhh yes, cricket. Such things happen so you can learn humility. OTOH, at least you're not using FORTRAN or COBOL! BTW, I'm a slow learner.

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[Gary Wheeler]

You do realize that correcting John's spelling when he's pissed about something is about as safe as telling Chuck Norris to keep off the grass?

Software Zen: delete this;

[Gary Wheeler]

There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing. If I found my minion pulling a trick like that, I would leave his head mounted on a pike outside the castle wall as a warning to the applicants to assume his position.

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[Luc Pattyn]

almost any 3, 4 or 5-letter combination is a keyword in VB. Without this feature you would be restricted to 1- and 2-letter identifiers, and really long ones. :)

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[realJSOP]

I have a strong feeling that you and I are so much alike that we could almost finish each other's sentences.

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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

[Steve Echols]

I also have to port stuff from C# to VB ( :( ): Public Enum Status Success Warning [Error] End Enum Without the [], I would have to name Error something else (Fubar comes to mind), and change every piece of code that uses it.

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[Dan Neely]

Gary Wheeler wrote:

You do realize that correcting John's spelling when he's pissed about something is about as safe as telling Chuck Norris to keep off the grass?

Actually it's less safe. You can do the latter safely if you word it right, just ask him to one up Jesus by walking on air. :laugh:

3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

[Member 96]

You sir are living in your own personal hell, my condolences. :)

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[Mycroft Holmes]

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

think my boss doesn't want to learn C#

That was the complaint I got from my boss when I moved the teams to c#. We still support the VB apps but at least the move stuck. I have too many years making a living with VB to bitch about it. Just another tool as far as I care.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

[JimmyRopes]

It is also the only way I know to pass the HttpAttribute "class" (@class=""), which happens to be a reserved word, to be able to use CSS on a custom control defined in a HttpHelper. :thumbsup:

[S Senthil Kumar]

Gary Wheeler wrote:

There is no conceivable reason whatsoever to do such a thing

I guess it's meant to be used mostly by automated tools generating source code. I've seen @object used as a variable/parameter name when the type is object, like so

public override void Equals(object @object)
{ ... }

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[GDMFSOB]

Download SharpDevelop its an open source C# IDE that has a built in C# to VB and vice versa converter works like a charm, I write in VB and an constanly too lazy to convert C# to VB manually, or you can get hold of .net reflector, you can reverse engineer the whole project into any .net lanugauge you want in one foul swoop. :)

[Fabio Franco]

This is one of the most shocking and most stupid things I've ever heard. If I were you I would throw pretty much every argument I have and can google in order to make him change his mind. I can suggest you one (hope not to be flamed): VB programmers are VB programmers because they don't know or are incapable of programming in any other language. Converting the project to VB is a downgrade in quality and practices. It will stimulate bad programmers to join the project's team and it will repel good programmers and thus, decreasing the quality of the software and it's maintenance. And yes, VB is a scourge and I feel pretty ashamed to have started programming on it (VB 5).

[Gary Wheeler]

So what? The automated tool could just as easily generate a decorated name (__object__) that wasn't a reserved name in the language. I maintain that this is a stupid feature, one that inexperienced programmers will delight in, and the rest of us will have to clean up their shit.

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[rurouniRonin]

It's not pretty but that kinda thing does come in handy from time to time. Like in SQL when you would like to name things semantically - like calling a field [Option] because, well, it's an option. I agree it's not really the greatest feature but it does allow for a bit more flexibility and so long as the person coding knows what they're doing it's not a problem. It was also mentioned earlier that it's there for backwards compatibility so if in a later version of a language they want to add a new keyword then they can do so without running the risk of completely mangling older code. Smarter people than us have developed all these languages so there's pretty much always gonna be a good reason behind these things whether we like them or not ;) PS: When will they add inline if statements to VB? :(