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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


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    You'd want a really, really, really good wine fridge for that. And you'd also never want to have a few friends over and forget which case is which...

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

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      Well my wife is Italian and I must stick just with paprika, cakes, ... :-D

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


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        AWdrius
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        It really sounds like a thoughtful investment. Will all the dice rolling that banks/investment companies are doing it is probably the next best thing to buying some land.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          You'd want a really, really, really good wine fridge for that. And you'd also never want to have a few friends over and forget which case is which...

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Dalek Dave
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          Typical bloody Australian. This is red wine, you do not keep it in a fridge, it bruises. You keep red wine in a cellar or other cool place, but never in a fridge. You see when it is brought out to Chambre it must not undergo too much of a temperature change, and not quickly either. White wine is kept in a fridge because it is virtually undrinkable until it is ice cold.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            You'd want a really, really, really good wine fridge for that. And you'd also never want to have a few friends over and forget which case is which...

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            To be honest, the people buying it now will never see it let alone taste it. In reality they're buying a future.


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            • CPalliniC CPallini

              Well my wife is Italian and I must stick just with paprika, cakes, ... :-D

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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              Nagy Vilmos
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              CPallini wrote:

              I must stick just with paprika, cakes

              I'm allowed the cakes; no complaints.


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                The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! might be better than most financial products momently. At least you can get drunk if the investment fails :laugh: regards, Torsten

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                SimulationofSai
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                :laugh: I only wish they'd sell smaller amounts. I'd be willing to invest on 10 ml. :rolleyes:

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  That is uncommonly decent of you old boy! I do like Valpolicella as well, one of the best of the Italian reds. Robust, but not harsh, I find it complements the gamier flavoured meats like venison or pheasant.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  You must have been univoted by a vegetarian. We cracked a bottle of Mouton Cadet white the other night: delightful.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                    and will only be drinkable around 2030.

                    Ah, come on, it'll be drinkable immediately. It would certainly be a waste of good wine and money, but I'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      You'd want a really, really, really good wine fridge for that. And you'd also never want to have a few friends over and forget which case is which...

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      I pay up to EUR39.99 for a good Burgundy (40 just feels like a cent too far). If you put that in a fridge, I'd set John on you, to shoot up the stuff around your barn door!

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        That is uncommonly decent of you old boy! I do like Valpolicella as well, one of the best of the Italian reds. Robust, but not harsh, I find it complements the gamier flavoured meats like venison or pheasant.

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        No further comments necessary.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          You must have been univoted by a vegetarian. We cracked a bottle of Mouton Cadet white the other night: delightful.

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Good stuff isn't it! I'm woring from home today and I've just had a quick look at my wines. I am not a complete snob; I even have some Oz Wines here!


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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            and will only be drinkable around 2030.

                            Ah, come on, it'll be drinkable immediately. It would certainly be a waste of good wine and money, but I'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year.

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                            'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year

                            Actually no. One of the underlying reasons for their expense is that the wines are not in a drinkable state for about 10 years.


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                              Typical bloody Australian. This is red wine, you do not keep it in a fridge, it bruises. You keep red wine in a cellar or other cool place, but never in a fridge. You see when it is brought out to Chambre it must not undergo too much of a temperature change, and not quickly either. White wine is kept in a fridge because it is virtually undrinkable until it is ice cold.

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Typical bloody Australian.

                              Whinging pom! Right, now we've got that out of the way... the problem here is that "room temperature" for red wine is 18C, not 32C. To get your reds to that temperature here, you need to either chill them in something, or drop an ice cube in the top if you are desperate...

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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                                _Damian S_
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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                £50,000 for a case

                                Worthless if you open it, pointless if you don't!!

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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                                  Keith Barrow
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                                  A good investment, if it reaches the price quoted. It represents 17.5% over 10 years (minus costs). This has been happening for ages: You pre-buy good wine (especially if the climate has been good ), then lay it down in a cellar. This is assuming you are the sort of person who has the financial & storage stability to be confident of the >10 year wait. It's possible to make a profit this way, but you have the benefit of your family inheriting a good wine cellar if you get it right.

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                    'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year

                                    Actually no. One of the underlying reasons for their expense is that the wines are not in a drinkable state for about 10 years.


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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    I think that's a common misconception, do you actually know anyone that has tried wine of that quality before it's ripe. In this case (IMAO) the definition of a drinkable state is compared to what the wine might/will become. If you instead compare it with the house wine of the local greek restaurant, it will still be a waste of money, in both cases.

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      Good stuff isn't it! I'm woring from home today and I've just had a quick look at my wines. I am not a complete snob; I even have some Oz Wines here!


                                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      I like wine (prefer red) but I really don't know much about it. I have 3 bottles left so I'll need ot get some for Krimble.

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                                        £5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:


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                                        JHizzle
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                                        Debateable, I do like my annual wine trips to the Loire. We usually come back with cases of methode traditionale, roses and varied at about 10 Euro per box of 6 bottles all of which are incredibly good. So while I appreciate the idea behidn investing in it, I do feel it's a bit of a waste. Good wine is for drinking.

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Typical bloody Australian. This is red wine, you do not keep it in a fridge, it bruises. You keep red wine in a cellar or other cool place, but never in a fridge. You see when it is brought out to Chambre it must not undergo too much of a temperature change, and not quickly either. White wine is kept in a fridge because it is virtually undrinkable until it is ice cold.

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          Typical bloody Pom. Wine fridge, not beer fridge, 14-19C, depending on the grape, though I'm happy to branch out and make generalisations about Poms and their confusion surrounding the temperature beer should be served at. I guess for some, 14-19C would be considered a warm day. [Edit: looks like I was slow off the mark. Small, manly nod in Damian's direction. Atta boy]

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