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  • C Christian Graus

    Is there any sense to that order ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Brady Kelly
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    Only in that there is a horizontal partitioning, i.e. rows >= Durban versus rows < Durban, and an apparent outer ordering by partition.

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      Brady Kelly wrote:

      but this is quite a hard question

      You are sarcastic right? "Union All" will do the job pretty easy.

      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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      Brady Kelly
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      How do you ensure the required ordering?

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      • C Christian Graus

        Is there any sense to that order ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        wolfbinary
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        I was thinking the same thing.

        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        • R realJSOP

          First, the data input routine allowed unvalidated data (the "CapeTown" entry). Second, it's apparently only ordered by region, and the name column doesn't have any brearing. In essense, you should have punched the interviewer in the mouth for wasting your time.

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          Brady Kelly
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          It was by email, and solvable. Durban and Cape Town contacts are sorted by name in the requirement. All contacts are sorted only by Region in the input data.

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          • B Brady Kelly

            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

            Region

            Contact

            Cape Town

            Fred

            CapeTown

            Joe

            Cape Town

            Anna

            Durban

            John

            Durban

            Mary

            Johannesburg

            Frank

            Fig. 2

            Region

            Contact

            Durban

            John

            Durban

            Mary

            Johannesburg

            Frank

            Cape Town

            Anna

            CapeTown

            Fred

            Cape Town

            Joe

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            The correct answer is: "With which database system?" P.S. With Access/Jet via ADO.net:

            select * from RegionContact order by len(Region) mod 2,Region,Contact

            Region Contact


            Durban John
            Durban Mary
            Johannesburg Frank
            Cape Town Anna
            Cape Town Fred
            Cape Town Joe

            6 records affected.

            modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:03 PM

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            • B Brady Kelly

              I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

              Region

              Contact

              Cape Town

              Fred

              CapeTown

              Joe

              Cape Town

              Anna

              Durban

              John

              Durban

              Mary

              Johannesburg

              Frank

              Fig. 2

              Region

              Contact

              Durban

              John

              Durban

              Mary

              Johannesburg

              Frank

              Cape Town

              Anna

              CapeTown

              Fred

              Cape Town

              Joe

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              AspDotNetDev
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              So here's my guess as to what the sort order is:

              • Sort by region, ascending, but making the first item group (by region) in that sort the last item. Do not consider whitespace in the sort order.
              • When two or more of the regions are the same (again, excluding whitespace), sort by contact ascending.

              Rather than follow those zany rules, I'd probably just do this:

              SELECT 'Durban' AS Region, 'John' AS Contact
              UNION
              SELECT 'Durban', 'Mary'
              UNION
              SELECT 'Johannesburg', 'Frank'
              UNION
              SELECT 'Cape Town', 'Anna'
              UNION
              SELECT 'CapeTown', 'Fred'
              UNION
              SELECT 'Cape Town', 'Joe'

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              • B Brady Kelly

                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                Region

                Contact

                Cape Town

                Fred

                CapeTown

                Joe

                Cape Town

                Anna

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Fig. 2

                Region

                Contact

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Cape Town

                Anna

                CapeTown

                Fred

                Cape Town

                Joe

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                Andy Brummer
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                I hope the question was an attempt to see if you would back away from the keyboard and start asking questions. If not, they deserve all the gung ho developers that they get.

                Curvature of the Mind

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  How do you ensure the required ordering?

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                  Single Step Debugger
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                  We can’t use “order by” with the union but we could unite every single row separately – ugly but works.

                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    How do you ensure the required ordering?

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                    Single Step Debugger
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                    select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                    where RT.Region = 'Durban' order by RT.Contact asc) as union1
                    union all
                    select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                    where RT.Region = 'Johannesburg' order by RT.Contact asc) as union3
                    union all
                    select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                    where RT.Region = 'Cape Town' order by RT.Contact asc) as union2

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                      select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                      where RT.Region = 'Durban' order by RT.Contact asc) as union1
                      union all
                      select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                      where RT.Region = 'Johannesburg' order by RT.Contact asc) as union3
                      union all
                      select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                      where RT.Region = 'Cape Town' order by RT.Contact asc) as union2

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                      Chris Meech
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                      This will fail, since one of the regions has been entered as "CapeTown" instead of "Cape Town". :)

                      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                        Region

                        Contact

                        Cape Town

                        Fred

                        CapeTown

                        Joe

                        Cape Town

                        Anna

                        Durban

                        John

                        Durban

                        Mary

                        Johannesburg

                        Frank

                        Fig. 2

                        Region

                        Contact

                        Durban

                        John

                        Durban

                        Mary

                        Johannesburg

                        Frank

                        Cape Town

                        Anna

                        CapeTown

                        Fred

                        Cape Town

                        Joe

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                        Chris Meech
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                        The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          It was by email, and solvable. Durban and Cape Town contacts are sorted by name in the requirement. All contacts are sorted only by Region in the input data.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          OK, so it's sorted by two fields we can't see ( region and email address ) ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Cape Town

                            Fred

                            CapeTown

                            Joe

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Fig. 2

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            CapeTown

                            Fred

                            Cape Town

                            Joe

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            select region, contact from ( select region, contact, case when region='Johannesburg' then 5 when region='Durban' then 1 else 10 end as Expr1 from TableName ) as Tbl order by Expr1, Contact

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            • C Chris Meech

                              This will fail, since one of the regions has been entered as "CapeTown" instead of "Cape Town". :)

                              Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                              Single Step Debugger
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                              No it won’t because the missing interval is due to the level of Brady’s BAC rather than the original task conditions. :)

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                              • S Single Step Debugger

                                No it won’t because the missing interval is due to the level of Brady’s BAC rather than the original task conditions. :)

                                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                Haha, no, I suspect it was a typo on their part, but I treated it like I would a landmine. :~

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                                  select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                                  where RT.Region = 'Durban' order by RT.Contact asc) as union1
                                  union all
                                  select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                                  where RT.Region = 'Johannesburg' order by RT.Contact asc) as union3
                                  union all
                                  select * from (select * from dbo.RegionTable RT
                                  where RT.Region = 'Cape Town' order by RT.Contact asc) as union2

                                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  #24

                                  The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

                                  select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
                                  union all
                                  select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
                                  order by outerSeq

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                                  • B Brady Kelly

                                    Haha, no, I suspect it was a typo on their part, but I treated it like I would a landmine. :~

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    What? Hold a protest rally outside the Pentagon? :confused:

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                                    • T Tomz_KV

                                      select region, contact from ( select region, contact, case when region='Johannesburg' then 5 when region='Durban' then 1 else 10 end as Expr1 from TableName ) as Tbl order by Expr1, Contact

                                      TOMZ_KV

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                                      Single Step Debugger
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                                      This is shorter than my solution, I like it!:thumbsup:

                                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Cape Town

                                        Fred

                                        CapeTown

                                        Joe

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Fig. 2

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        CapeTown

                                        Fred

                                        Cape Town

                                        Joe

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        #27

                                        Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

                                        SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
                                        ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

                                        This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

                                        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          The correct answer is: "With which database system?" P.S. With Access/Jet via ADO.net:

                                          select * from RegionContact order by len(Region) mod 2,Region,Contact

                                          Region Contact


                                          Durban John
                                          Durban Mary
                                          Johannesburg Frank
                                          Cape Town Anna
                                          Cape Town Fred
                                          Cape Town Joe

                                          6 records affected.

                                          modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:03 PM

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          Cape Town

                                          According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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