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  • G Gregory Gadow

    The theory of gravity is just a theory. TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

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    Pete OHanlon
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    What happens if you disprove it? Is gravity just a really sticky form of a belief system.

    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      What happens if you disprove it? Is gravity just a really sticky form of a belief system.

      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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      realJSOP
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      If you can disprove it, it will lift your spirits.

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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        If you can disprove it, it will lift your spirits.

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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        Dalek Dave
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        What happens if you throw yourself to the ground, and miss?

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        • G Gregory Gadow

          The theory of gravity is just a theory. TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

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          Pete OHanlon
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          It does if you've disproved centripetal force.

          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          • D Dalek Dave

            What happens if you throw yourself to the ground, and miss?

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            Pete OHanlon
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            That only works if you get distracted, say by a nice game of cricket.

            I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              That only works if you get distracted, say by a nice game of cricket.

              I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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              Dalek Dave
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              Or some interesting pseudopodia.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                REPEAL OHMS LAW!

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                Electron Shepherd
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                REPEAL OHMS LAW

                I must offer some resistance to this idea!

                Server and Network Monitoring

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  It does if you've disproved centripetal force.

                  I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  Thank you, 5, Big Kiss, Cigar and Handshake. I have, for many years, been arguing with friends who are by no means stupid, but who are scientifically challenged, that there is no such thing as centrifugal force, it is centripetal! I see I have an ally in my quest to rid the world of this ignorant term.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  • E Electron Shepherd

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    REPEAL OHMS LAW

                    I must offer some resistance to this idea!

                    Server and Network Monitoring

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    I should call Henry, he can give you your inductance lesson!

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                    • K KePilo

                      Came across a cool site for those long chilllout discussions in the breaks. http://blog.aimonger.com/2010/12/13/is-science-just-a-new-religion/ I know it's not programming but since I get lot's of interesting non related links from the lounge might as well share back :-O . njoy..

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                      _Erik_
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                      Science can replace the religion, but is not a religion.

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                      • K KePilo

                        Came across a cool site for those long chilllout discussions in the breaks. http://blog.aimonger.com/2010/12/13/is-science-just-a-new-religion/ I know it's not programming but since I get lot's of interesting non related links from the lounge might as well share back :-O . njoy..

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          It does if you've disproved centripetal force.

                          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          IMO you can't disprove centripetal and centrifugal forces, all you can do is deny them, as I do. Newton didn't need them, Copernicus didn't need them, all physical observations that can be explained, get explained without them. They are urban legends, it simply is inertia abused by pseudo-scientists that want to swing a bucket full of water, and the reaction to it. :)

                          Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                            Thank you, 5, Big Kiss, Cigar and Handshake. I have, for many years, been arguing with friends who are by no means stupid, but who are scientifically challenged, that there is no such thing as centrifugal force, it is centripetal! I see I have an ally in my quest to rid the world of this ignorant term.

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Sounds like they don't know the difference between a centrifuge and gravity.

                            I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Thank you, 5, Big Kiss, Cigar and Handshake. I have, for many years, been arguing with friends who are by no means stupid, but who are scientifically challenged, that there is no such thing as centrifugal force, it is centripetal! I see I have an ally in my quest to rid the world of this ignorant term.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                              Luc Pattyn
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                              Close, but no cigars yet. :)

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                              • K KePilo

                                Came across a cool site for those long chilllout discussions in the breaks. http://blog.aimonger.com/2010/12/13/is-science-just-a-new-religion/ I know it's not programming but since I get lot's of interesting non related links from the lounge might as well share back :-O . njoy..

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                Sacrifice the pagans to the petri dish.

                                I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                • K KePilo

                                  Came across a cool site for those long chilllout discussions in the breaks. http://blog.aimonger.com/2010/12/13/is-science-just-a-new-religion/ I know it's not programming but since I get lot's of interesting non related links from the lounge might as well share back :-O . njoy..

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                                  ceMental
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                                  Hello, Here is a good science blog that discusses science, pseudoscience, religion, etc. http://theness.com/neurologicablog/[neurological blog]

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    I should call Henry, he can give you your inductance lesson!

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                                    Henry Minute
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                                    Sadly I cannot help. I've run out of duct. Just before Xmas too!:mad:

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      IMO you can't disprove centripetal and centrifugal forces, all you can do is deny them, as I do. Newton didn't need them, Copernicus didn't need them, all physical observations that can be explained, get explained without them. They are urban legends, it simply is inertia abused by pseudo-scientists that want to swing a bucket full of water, and the reaction to it. :)

                                      Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                      Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      You are obviously not a physicist! Centripetal force is a real force, a square law force at that, and nature loves them! (F=m.v^2/r and S=r.Δv/v are useful equations to remember)

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                                        Sadly I cannot help. I've run out of duct. Just before Xmas too!:mad:

                                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Your toolbox appears to lack the capacitance!

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Er...No! Religion requires belief and unquestioning loyalty. Science requires proof and nothing else but questions. Asking if science is like religion is like asking 'Why is a mouse when it spins'. Meaningless and a waste of time. Science is the antithesis of religion, science requires intelligence and learning to succeed, religion requires stupidity, fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          Science requires proof and nothing else but questions.

                                          Where does matter come from? Why do oppositely charged electrical matter attract and those that are the same repel? Where did the Big Bang come from? The absolute basis of science does require a leap of faith. Every science has certain givens that we assume to be true and derive most everything else from those. Try proving the 5th postulate.

                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          Asking if science is like religion is like asking 'Why is a mouse when it spins'.

                                          Schrödinger's cat was chasing it. Assuming it's a what, not a why. Otherwise, that's like a scientist asking why is light smelly?

                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          Science is the antithesis of religion, science requires intelligence and learning to succeed, religion requires stupidity, fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

                                          Although I hate religion and find it a waste of time, I disagree with this. Science and religion both require faith that what you're doing is right. The only difference between them is that science finds a potential proof or disproof after a certain period of time (there are exceptions like the 5th postulate), whereas religion only deals with the Supreme Being and existence (which IMO will never be answered, much less proven), even if their interpretation is completely flawed.

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