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    aalex675
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    Hi everyone. I usually don't post and I'm not sure if there is a different forum for this, but this[] article was posted today. Is it just me or is it basically the same as this one[] on a different site. The code is too similar (in my opinion), but the article has been rewritten. Is this ok by CodeProject standards?

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      Hi everyone. I usually don't post and I'm not sure if there is a different forum for this, but this[] article was posted today. Is it just me or is it basically the same as this one[] on a different site. The code is too similar (in my opinion), but the article has been rewritten. Is this ok by CodeProject standards?

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      Kunal Chowdhury IN
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      Hmmmm... Looks like the class StateManager is similar but the content is not fully copied. So, I guess this type of articles are ok in CodeProject, else many articles will remove from CodeProject Database.

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        Hmmmm... Looks like the class StateManager is similar but the content is not fully copied. So, I guess this type of articles are ok in CodeProject, else many articles will remove from CodeProject Database.

        Please Vote for the Articles and/or Posts that you like.


        Kunal Chowdhury (Microsoft MVP (Silverlight) | CodeProject MVP | Follow My Blog | Follow Silverlight-Zone | Follow Me @ Twitter)

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        DaveAuld
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        If you have concerns about any article etc you should post them in the site bugs and suggestions forum, or use the Report function within the article, the admins will then get round to your query/concerns when they get time. According to the FAQ's, providing you link back to the original source and give the original author the credit and you have permission to use the code, then there is no problem, well that my take on it at least.

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        • K Kunal Chowdhury IN

          Hmmmm... Looks like the class StateManager is similar but the content is not fully copied. So, I guess this type of articles are ok in CodeProject, else many articles will remove from CodeProject Database.

          Please Vote for the Articles and/or Posts that you like.


          Kunal Chowdhury (Microsoft MVP (Silverlight) | CodeProject MVP | Follow My Blog | Follow Silverlight-Zone | Follow Me @ Twitter)

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          Ian Shlasko
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          Actually, it looks like StateManager isn't just similar, but a blatant copy-paste, right down to the error message. The rest of the article, on the other hand, looks like it might be original... So I think the CP author just needs to give credit to the original author for that block, since the rest gives an example of how to use that class.

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            Actually, it looks like StateManager isn't just similar, but a blatant copy-paste, right down to the error message. The rest of the article, on the other hand, looks like it might be original... So I think the CP author just needs to give credit to the original author for that block, since the rest gives an example of how to use that class.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            Henry Minute
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            Problem is if you google the error message it is all over the place, in the same code. I gave up trying to find out who posted/wrote it first although I suspect it was Scott on the MSDN Blogs.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!

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              Problem is if you google the error message it is all over the place, in the same code. I gave up trying to find out who posted/wrote it first although I suspect it was Scott on the MSDN Blogs.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!

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              Nish Nishant
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              Yeah, that's possible too, that the blog guy himself got it from some other source :-)

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              • K Kunal Chowdhury IN

                Hmmmm... Looks like the class StateManager is similar but the content is not fully copied. So, I guess this type of articles are ok in CodeProject, else many articles will remove from CodeProject Database.

                Please Vote for the Articles and/or Posts that you like.


                Kunal Chowdhury (Microsoft MVP (Silverlight) | CodeProject MVP | Follow My Blog | Follow Silverlight-Zone | Follow Me @ Twitter)

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                Nish Nishant
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                He did use StateManager verbatim from that other site, so he absolutely should have given credit where credit is due. Something as simple as "this class has been taken from this blog by abc".

                Regards, Nish


                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Problem is if you google the error message it is all over the place, in the same code. I gave up trying to find out who posted/wrote it first although I suspect it was Scott on the MSDN Blogs.

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  I dunno... If you search for the exact message, the oldest result is the blog post aalex675 mentioned here. It's from 2009, while everything else is 2010 and on. It's been spread around quite a bit, and the author does give permission to use it in a reply to a comment on his blog post. Granted, the idea itself may have come from elsewhere, but the copy-pasted code seems to originate there. So like I said before... I think the CP author just needs to give credit where credit is due. He's talking about how to hook everything together and just using the StateManager class as "a sample class which registers 'VisualState' as a dependency property", in his own words... So I think the article itself is still perfectly valid, as long as credit is given.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                  Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                    Hi everyone. I usually don't post and I'm not sure if there is a different forum for this, but this[] article was posted today. Is it just me or is it basically the same as this one[] on a different site. The code is too similar (in my opinion), but the article has been rewritten. Is this ok by CodeProject standards?

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                    I'd be interested to know who actually approved it for publication. In its pre-publication state a number of people suggested it was not quite up to scratch as an article, but was a Tip/Trick at best. I am always a bit suspicious of articles that contain lots of code but very little description of what the code does, why it does it, and who could benefit from it.

                    I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                      I'd be interested to know who actually approved it for publication. In its pre-publication state a number of people suggested it was not quite up to scratch as an article, but was a Tip/Trick at best. I am always a bit suspicious of articles that contain lots of code but very little description of what the code does, why it does it, and who could benefit from it.

                      I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      The sooner we get a multiple approval mechanism in place, the better.

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                        The sooner we get a multiple approval mechanism in place, the better.

                        I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                        I think it's on Chris's list.

                        I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                          Hi everyone. I usually don't post and I'm not sure if there is a different forum for this, but this[] article was posted today. Is it just me or is it basically the same as this one[] on a different site. The code is too similar (in my opinion), but the article has been rewritten. Is this ok by CodeProject standards?

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                          Kunal Chowdhury IN
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                          Yes, I checked it thoroughly now. Here is the actual copied content highlighted: http://bit.ly/fVUgSI[^]. I also see the same class present in CodePlex discussion: http://bit.ly/igK4pv[^]. The author should give the original url in the article. Just a suggestion. Can we move this discussion to the article forum instead of Lounge? This way, the author will find it useful, because he might not be visiting Lounge.

                          Please Vote for the Articles and/or Posts that you like.


                          Kunal Chowdhury (Microsoft MVP (Silverlight) | CodeProject MVP | Follow My Blog | Follow Silverlight-Zone | Follow Me @ Twitter)

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