You are not paid to think...
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
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That happens as well, but I can usually trim their expectations a little bit by massaging the requirements a bit. :)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
Marcus Kramer wrote:
a little bit by massaging the requirements a bit
In other words, doing the thinking no-one else is doing?
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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It really depends. I like developing rather than designing. For anyone to be productive they need to do one of the 2, but never both. That just leads to high unproductivity.
leppie wrote:
For anyone to be productive they need to do one of the 2, but never both. That just leads to high unproductivity.
That may be true for you. It doesn't mean it's true for all.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
Seems like more companies these days are hiring Business Analysts to think and Developers to code. I think the theory is that business analysts cost less and can relate to the business better than a developer. At my current and previous job developers have little or no contact with users and all issues are mitigated through a BA. Some of this may also have to do with the personality of the department managers. Does anyone else work with BAs and what role do they play in your organization?
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
It depends on your role of the company. If someone simply implements stuff that has already been designed by others, temptation to do it differently might kick in, but this person is not paid to "think" a better way to do stuff, he simply needs to do it. Unfortunatelly it's usually how it is. In past times I had really nasty fights with team leaders because I didn't agree the way something was beeing done, and I felt really mad to do stuff I knew wouldn't work. This fights looked bad for me, none of the times I convinced them to do it my way and when the time came to say "I told you so", my salary didn't rise and I didn't get a promotion. So thinking in my case was pointless and has done more harm than good to my career. A very good example is JSOP, that thinked and it didn't matter anyway, he still had to convert stuff from C# to VB, no matter how insane that sounded.
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Maybe not, if the phase differences can be properly managed to cancel out each others' effects.
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I consider that I'm paid to get out customer requests based on deadlines and LOE's that I suggest. If I say a job will take 2 weeks, it is then my responsibility to get it out in that time. How much time to "think" depends on how much time I can convince the customer a project will take.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
I'm no good at word games and I hate acronymns. What's an LOE?
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
Yes: you are paid to think. You are paid to think of the most efficient way to do things, regarding all factors including design time, delivered code quality, timliness to market, etc. Spending an extended time in contemplation is only to the point when the product of such contemplation is expected to be justified against all the constraints you are meant to consider. I mean, Duh!
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Seems like more companies these days are hiring Business Analysts to think and Developers to code. I think the theory is that business analysts cost less and can relate to the business better than a developer. At my current and previous job developers have little or no contact with users and all issues are mitigated through a BA. Some of this may also have to do with the personality of the department managers. Does anyone else work with BAs and what role do they play in your organization?
Yeah, that's the dark side of agile. It was scaring the crap out of the beer-drinking crowd back in the 90's when the geeks were suddenly sought-after employees and even desirable mates. Something Had To Be Done, and the Business Analyst was the answer. The BA stood between the geeks and the customer, so there was no way for the geeks to check to see if he knew his stuff or not. Then tighten up the schedule, and blame the developers if the product was unsuccessful in the market, or better yet, punish the devs further with late-night catch-up coding as requirements "changed". I mean honestly, do you really think an add/change/delete screen isn't a thing that can be spec'd out once and for all?
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
"over-design" is Jun Du’s interpretation; not his manager’s. You have to ask your manager’s definition. And different manager will tell you different definition. This will force you think harder.
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One of our supervisors posted this at his cubicle (as a joke, of course). Seriously, are we or should we be paid to think in our daily work? By "think", I mean spending a lot of time in great details, something we call "over-design".
Best, Jun
Yes, let's not think and simply become machines... Who says SkyNet is dead!?!?
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Yes, let's not think and simply become machines... Who says SkyNet is dead!?!?
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com