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  • D DaveAuld

    I don't know what you've read to try and fix it, but this details the issue, the workaround and the pitfalls. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6[^]

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    Christian Graus
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    Thanks - I've not read this one, so I'll read it and try it the way they suggest.

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      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      Where have you been for the past decade?

      Yeah, I see that... I know IE6 is a problem, but lots of people still use it and this is a consumer facing site.

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      Lost User
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I know IE6 is a problem, but lots of people still use it

      Thankfully less and less all the time. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20030176-264.html[^] "Internet Explorer 6...continued its decline, with a 1.77 [percentage point] drop reaching 12.03 percent in January worldwide. IE6 has dropped 3.9 [percentage points] over the last three months (an average of 1.3 [percentage point] drop per month) and 9.31 percent from a year ago."

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      • C Christian Graus

        So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Slacker007
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        I haven't had the probs with the PNG's but there are numerous MS websites that don't work anymore with IE6.

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        • C Christian Graus

          So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Steve Echols
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          I had to resort to using 8 bit pngs for IE6, which basically act like transparent .gifs. I wrote an image control that checks the browser version/type and picks the image accordingly. There's probably a way to use css hacks, but I don't know off the top of my head. http://civicactions.com/blog/png_images_transparency_ie6_answers_to_theming_hell[^] http://schoberg.net/2009/07/degradable-png-transparency-for-ie6/[^]


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            I haven't had the probs with the PNG's but there are numerous MS websites that don't work anymore with IE6.

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            Christian Graus
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            I assume they are developer sites, not sites aimed at the general public. 10% is still one in ten users, we still want them.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • C Christian Graus

              I assume they are developer sites, not sites aimed at the general public. 10% is still one in ten users, we still want them.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              Slacker007
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              yes developer sites. I think one of the ones that I couldn't get to with IE6 was TechNet.

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              • C Christian Graus

                So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                If memory serves there is an ActiveX control you need to install for PNGs to work in IE6.

                "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                • C Christian Graus

                  So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  M dHatter
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                  You are still using ie6, my god man, time to upgrade or switch to firefox. 1 Firefox 3.6 26.29% 2 Internet Explorer 8 25.97% 3 Chrome 8 12.95% 4 Internet Explorer 7 9.90% 5 Safari 5 4.86% 6 Internet Explorer 6 3.91% 7 Firefox 3.5 2.54% 8 Firefox 3 1.30% 9 Safari 4 0.91% 10 Firefox 4 0.70%

                  "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    8bit PNGs? Otherwise AFAIR you have to use ActiveX or other ungodly work-arounds to support 16 or 24 bit PNGs. And, vague here, 8bit PNG transparency is noticeably different. Still alpha but just less colours to play with? *keeps stabbing away with vague suggestions* Thankfully my last few jobs have been IE7 and up.

                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      You are still using ie6, my god man, time to upgrade or switch to firefox. 1 Firefox 3.6 26.29% 2 Internet Explorer 8 25.97% 3 Chrome 8 12.95% 4 Internet Explorer 7 9.90% 5 Safari 5 4.86% 6 Internet Explorer 6 3.91% 7 Firefox 3.5 2.54% 8 Firefox 3 1.30% 9 Safari 4 0.91% 10 Firefox 4 0.70%

                      "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      it's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

                      "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Thanks - I've not read this one, so I'll read it and try it the way they suggest.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        There's also Google Chrome Frame[^]

                        "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          it's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

                          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                          DaveAuld
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                          ahmed zahmed wrote:

                          t's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

                          He must be using it to test it before he finds out it doesn't work :rolleyes:

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                            ahmed zahmed wrote:

                            t's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

                            He must be using it to test it before he finds out it doesn't work :rolleyes:

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                            well, duh :rolleyes: X|

                            "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                              it's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

                              "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                              M dHatter
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                              3.9 % probably less... who cares, give them an error message like microsoft on their site that says please upgrade to newer browser. IE 6 has so much security and css problems.

                              "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                well, duh :rolleyes: X|

                                "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                DaveAuld
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                                :laugh:

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  I know IE6 is a problem, but lots of people still use it

                                  Thankfully less and less all the time. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20030176-264.html[^] "Internet Explorer 6...continued its decline, with a 1.77 [percentage point] drop reaching 12.03 percent in January worldwide. IE6 has dropped 3.9 [percentage points] over the last three months (an average of 1.3 [percentage point] drop per month) and 9.31 percent from a year ago."

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Ars Technica is quoting slightly lower numbers of 11.43%[^] for IE6, and a 1.63% drop. Either way, IE6 share is likely to reach a single digit share within the next month or two. IE6's losses have been fairly consistant at a bit over 1.5% a month for a while with the dataset used by Ars Technica. While they'll probably start leveling off soon, a linear extrapolation would have the share hitting 0% in about 7 months. Regardless, if IE6's share isn't small enough to ignore yet, it will be soon; and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    There's also Google Chrome Frame[^]

                                    "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                    AspDotNetDev
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                                    That wouldn't help his IE6 users view transparent PNG's.

                                    [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                                    • D Dan Neely

                                      Ars Technica is quoting slightly lower numbers of 11.43%[^] for IE6, and a 1.63% drop. Either way, IE6 share is likely to reach a single digit share within the next month or two. IE6's losses have been fairly consistant at a bit over 1.5% a month for a while with the dataset used by Ars Technica. While they'll probably start leveling off soon, a linear extrapolation would have the share hitting 0% in about 7 months. Regardless, if IE6's share isn't small enough to ignore yet, it will be soon; and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Dan Neely wrote:

                                      and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

                                      Agreed

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                                        3.9 % probably less... who cares, give them an error message like microsoft on their site that says please upgrade to newer browser. IE 6 has so much security and css problems.

                                        "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        agreed. And IE7 *is* available for Windows XP

                                        "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                          That wouldn't help his IE6 users view transparent PNG's.

                                          [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          Uh, and why not? It's a plug-in for IE6 that takes over the HTML rendering. Hence, PNGs would then work.

                                          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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