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  • C Christian Graus

    Thanks - I've not read this one, so I'll read it and try it the way they suggest.

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    There's also Google Chrome Frame[^]

    "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      it's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

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      DaveAuld
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      ahmed zahmed wrote:

      t's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

      He must be using it to test it before he finds out it doesn't work :rolleyes:

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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        t's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

        He must be using it to test it before he finds out it doesn't work :rolleyes:

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        well, duh :rolleyes: X|

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          it's not that he's *using* IE6, he has to write html code to *support* IE6 users.

          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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          M dHatter
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          3.9 % probably less... who cares, give them an error message like microsoft on their site that says please upgrade to newer browser. IE 6 has so much security and css problems.

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            well, duh :rolleyes: X|

            "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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            :laugh:

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            • L Lost User

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I know IE6 is a problem, but lots of people still use it

              Thankfully less and less all the time. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20030176-264.html[^] "Internet Explorer 6...continued its decline, with a 1.77 [percentage point] drop reaching 12.03 percent in January worldwide. IE6 has dropped 3.9 [percentage points] over the last three months (an average of 1.3 [percentage point] drop per month) and 9.31 percent from a year ago."

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              Dan Neely
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              Ars Technica is quoting slightly lower numbers of 11.43%[^] for IE6, and a 1.63% drop. Either way, IE6 share is likely to reach a single digit share within the next month or two. IE6's losses have been fairly consistant at a bit over 1.5% a month for a while with the dataset used by Ars Technica. While they'll probably start leveling off soon, a linear extrapolation would have the share hitting 0% in about 7 months. Regardless, if IE6's share isn't small enough to ignore yet, it will be soon; and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                There's also Google Chrome Frame[^]

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                AspDotNetDev
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                That wouldn't help his IE6 users view transparent PNG's.

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Ars Technica is quoting slightly lower numbers of 11.43%[^] for IE6, and a 1.63% drop. Either way, IE6 share is likely to reach a single digit share within the next month or two. IE6's losses have been fairly consistant at a bit over 1.5% a month for a while with the dataset used by Ars Technica. While they'll probably start leveling off soon, a linear extrapolation would have the share hitting 0% in about 7 months. Regardless, if IE6's share isn't small enough to ignore yet, it will be soon; and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

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                  Dan Neely wrote:

                  and I'd put it low enough to stop making heroic efforts to support already.

                  Agreed

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                    3.9 % probably less... who cares, give them an error message like microsoft on their site that says please upgrade to newer browser. IE 6 has so much security and css problems.

                    "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    agreed. And IE7 *is* available for Windows XP

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      That wouldn't help his IE6 users view transparent PNG's.

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Uh, and why not? It's a plug-in for IE6 that takes over the HTML rendering. Hence, PNGs would then work.

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        Uh, and why not? It's a plug-in for IE6 that takes over the HTML rendering. Hence, PNGs would then work.

                        "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        Because the user has to install the plugin. If you can't get them to upgrade past IE6, what makes you think they would install that plugin? And does that plugin even work in IE6? EDIT: Seems IE6 is supported by the plugin. Though I still think asking the user to install the plugin may not be feasible (e.g., they may be on corporate computers where installs of new software is not allowed).

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          Because the user has to install the plugin. If you can't get them to upgrade past IE6, what makes you think they would install that plugin? And does that plugin even work in IE6? EDIT: Seems IE6 is supported by the plugin. Though I still think asking the user to install the plugin may not be feasible (e.g., they may be on corporate computers where installs of new software is not allowed).

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          well, if they don't want to install the plugin, then they get a garbagy looking UI

                          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                            agreed. And IE7 *is* available for Windows XP

                            "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                            Dan Neely
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                            IE7 has a smaller market share than IE6, besides which IE8 is available for XP so even die hard MS loving XP users have access to a halfway decent IE version. IE9 will not be, because it uses Direct2d(?) which requires DX10; and DX10 isn't available for XP.

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                              IE7 has a smaller market share than IE6, besides which IE8 is available for XP so even die hard MS loving XP users have access to a halfway decent IE version. IE9 will not be, because it uses Direct2d(?) which requires DX10; and DX10 isn't available for XP.

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              cool, even better!

                              "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                The simple solution is don't use IE6. :rolleyes:

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  JHizzle
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                                  We've had this just recently. We tried implementing a script file to dynamically recode the img tag to use a style source = Microsoft.ImageX something or other but that then decided to screw up ff and also not show every file in IE6. End result was we batch converted from png to gif.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    ldudex
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                                    Screw IE6 - *IE8* even has issues with PNGs... this w/end I was making a simple html page that used JQuery's animate function - the png in question has some transparency in parts of the logo, and by simply doing a fade-in and move with .animate, the logo just looked like crappy black text. No other browser had this issue ... just IE... hell, even the iPad and Android 3.2's browser dealt with it just FINE. Luckily IE9 did work without munging the transparency in the logo, but it had other issues (regarding width) that IE8 also had. *sigh*

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                                      You are still using ie6, my god man, time to upgrade or switch to firefox. 1 Firefox 3.6 26.29% 2 Internet Explorer 8 25.97% 3 Chrome 8 12.95% 4 Internet Explorer 7 9.90% 5 Safari 5 4.86% 6 Internet Explorer 6 3.91% 7 Firefox 3.5 2.54% 8 Firefox 3 1.30% 9 Safari 4 0.91% 10 Firefox 4 0.70%

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                                      These look like real world stats from an actual website. Hooray!

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        So, I've followed the instructions offered on several websites, and IE6 still is not showing my PNGs with transparency. I am not sure if it's because I am in a VM, or I'm doing something wrong, or what. I am still incredulous that Microsoft could be so stupid. Has anyone else had this issue ( that is, PNGs on a website and the online fixes don't seem to work )

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        After working late... very late... I found this...! http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/[^]

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                                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                          well, if they don't want to install the plugin, then they get a garbagy looking UI

                                          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                          dawmail333
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                                          Yes, it's not always feasible, but it is 98% of the time. IE6 has to die, and if that requires drastic measures, so be it! Microsoft have stopped supporting IE6 on their own pages, so why should we care??? At least the average is FINALLY shifting past IE6. Thank heavens.

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