Old junk or rare and valuable hardware?
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I still have my first computer, a Netronics Elf II from 1978. It was a kit and I had to scrape together my allowance to get parts and components. I did what I could, but I never got all the neat expansions and had to content with 4k RAM and great black and white graphics at a resolution of 64 x 32 pixels or 64 x 64 pixels. Now I came across someone who wants to sell his old computer. Unlike mine it has practically everything the manufacturer had to offer, including several 4k and 16k memory expansion boards. The four 4k cards cost about 110$ each back then. I know. At least I have one of them. And the two 16k cards were extremely expensive. I would be crazy enough to buy it, but it's only sold completely and the seller wants at least 6000$ for it. That price probably would be equivalent to what the entire computer cost back in 1978. I suppose, I will pass on that offer, but what is the right price? The technology is more than obsolete. I could easily get a 64k RAM chip for a few dollars. It would need little additional logic and making the circuit board would be the hardest part. From that perspective, the price is laughable. On the other side it's a rare old machine. I would not hope to find 1000 of them in working condition on the entire planet. But are there really enough people around who are interested enough to pay such a price?
"I have what could be described as the most wide-open sense of humor on the site, and if I don't think something is funny, then it really isn't." - JSOC, 2011 -----
"Friar Modest never was a prior" - Italian proverbCosmic Elf! Yes! I have one with everything! And, expansions, etc. Have to dig it out and set it back up now. LOL I had it playing "The Entertainer" one day at work. (Boredom) Also, have a pile of AppleIIe's, C's, Plus's, Even one Imsai 8080, with the Wargames front panel. Cool days back then. Yes on the drinks, Marq's...
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I still have my first computer, a Netronics Elf II from 1978. It was a kit and I had to scrape together my allowance to get parts and components. I did what I could, but I never got all the neat expansions and had to content with 4k RAM and great black and white graphics at a resolution of 64 x 32 pixels or 64 x 64 pixels. Now I came across someone who wants to sell his old computer. Unlike mine it has practically everything the manufacturer had to offer, including several 4k and 16k memory expansion boards. The four 4k cards cost about 110$ each back then. I know. At least I have one of them. And the two 16k cards were extremely expensive. I would be crazy enough to buy it, but it's only sold completely and the seller wants at least 6000$ for it. That price probably would be equivalent to what the entire computer cost back in 1978. I suppose, I will pass on that offer, but what is the right price? The technology is more than obsolete. I could easily get a 64k RAM chip for a few dollars. It would need little additional logic and making the circuit board would be the hardest part. From that perspective, the price is laughable. On the other side it's a rare old machine. I would not hope to find 1000 of them in working condition on the entire planet. But are there really enough people around who are interested enough to pay such a price?
"I have what could be described as the most wide-open sense of humor on the site, and if I don't think something is funny, then it really isn't." - JSOC, 2011 -----
"Friar Modest never was a prior" - Italian proverbI've just sold an old Commadore Amiga 500 on eBay, and 'upgraded' to a Commodore Amiga A1200; with PCMCIA slot and a whopping 64Mbyte (yes megabyte) hard disk. Back to the heady days of Workbench 3.1. Now if only I could get it to load a CD I could upgrade even further to Workbench 3.9 and really enjoy some pre-emtive multitasking. :cool:
I'm too lazy to Google it for you.
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Anybody aware of an operational or non-operational ECIL/TDC-316 anywhere? I was in the system software development team for that model during late 1970's.
Not a clue? Seems to be Indian specific and even when I googled it there wasn't a lot available. Good luck.
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Cosmic Elf! Yes! I have one with everything! And, expansions, etc. Have to dig it out and set it back up now. LOL I had it playing "The Entertainer" one day at work. (Boredom) Also, have a pile of AppleIIe's, C's, Plus's, Even one Imsai 8080, with the Wargames front panel. Cool days back then. Yes on the drinks, Marq's...
COSMAC, not cosmic :) That was the name RCA used for CMOS.
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:laugh: :laugh: I wasn't going to tell anyone. :) I communicated with a guy that used to work on my team back then and he said the thing that impressed him about me was that I had the instruction set memorized.
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Yeah, I used to have the 6800 (yeah, just two zeros) instruction set memorized, and used this knowledge for programming in hex. Not really all that hard a skill to acquire when you're doing it every day. Still, mem were men in those days.
It was pretty easy back then and like you say if you used them every day as we did it didn't take long.
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Let's say that in a more impressive manner. How about this: You have forgotten more about programming than most young hotshots ever knew. And what's left is more as well :)
"I have what could be described as the most wide-open sense of humor on the site, and if I don't think something is funny, then it really isn't." - JSOC, 2011 -----
"Friar Modest never was a prior" - Italian proverbI like this one: "I know everything that's worth knowing and most all the rest."
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I still have my 1985 Macintosh 128k M0001P in working conditions including mouse keyboard and printer. No idea on its current value, but its not on sale anyway.
Similarly here. Macintosh 512KE, Floppy disk drive (Wooooo 800K !!!) Apple ImageWriter II dot matrix printer. Mouse. Floppy disks for OS, MacPaint, and MacWrite.
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I remember knowing the Z80 instruction set on a similar basis when coding with a ZX81, then Spectrum. That and the Complete Spectrum ROM Disassembly book helped write fairly efficient machine code (I had no assembler!)
I thought about building a Z80 at one time, but I was just too busy at the time and never got around to it. I was working on mainframes and mid size machines back then. I didn't get a PC until 1992 when I was out of work and had some time to learn a new platform.
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I still have my first computer, a Netronics Elf II from 1978. It was a kit and I had to scrape together my allowance to get parts and components. I did what I could, but I never got all the neat expansions and had to content with 4k RAM and great black and white graphics at a resolution of 64 x 32 pixels or 64 x 64 pixels. Now I came across someone who wants to sell his old computer. Unlike mine it has practically everything the manufacturer had to offer, including several 4k and 16k memory expansion boards. The four 4k cards cost about 110$ each back then. I know. At least I have one of them. And the two 16k cards were extremely expensive. I would be crazy enough to buy it, but it's only sold completely and the seller wants at least 6000$ for it. That price probably would be equivalent to what the entire computer cost back in 1978. I suppose, I will pass on that offer, but what is the right price? The technology is more than obsolete. I could easily get a 64k RAM chip for a few dollars. It would need little additional logic and making the circuit board would be the hardest part. From that perspective, the price is laughable. On the other side it's a rare old machine. I would not hope to find 1000 of them in working condition on the entire planet. But are there really enough people around who are interested enough to pay such a price?
"I have what could be described as the most wide-open sense of humor on the site, and if I don't think something is funny, then it really isn't." - JSOC, 2011 -----
"Friar Modest never was a prior" - Italian proverbCDP1802 wrote:
But are there really enough people around who are interested enough to pay such a price?
somebody once said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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