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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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First, Samsung over Sony. Samsung have had a few HDMI hotplug issues but Sony are generally losing market share for various reasons. LED backlighting provides better colour since the CFL backlighting doesn't have as even a spectrum. Size - depends on viewing distance. at 3.5 metres my 58" TV is just about right but 63" would be spot on, work back from there for the eye-TV distance. This is a nicety though, don't stress about it. 3D - yup, not that good and not much content. Internet connectivity - getting there, things such as Netflix are making it worthwhile, even Skype.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model?
LED is considered superior IIRC, the picture is much clearer. LEDs emit light and when they are off they are off, whereas the LCDs block light coming through (but not 100%) so the contrast ratio is higher in LED TVs. I *think* they have a better lifespan too, but don't quote me on that.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too?
Samsung, even if to avoid Sony's customer care.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those
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First, Samsung over Sony. Samsung have had a few HDMI hotplug issues but Sony are generally losing market share for various reasons. LED backlighting provides better colour since the CFL backlighting doesn't have as even a spectrum. Size - depends on viewing distance. at 3.5 metres my 58" TV is just about right but 63" would be spot on, work back from there for the eye-TV distance. This is a nicety though, don't stress about it. 3D - yup, not that good and not much content. Internet connectivity - getting there, things such as Netflix are making it worthwhile, even Skype.
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Thanks Elaine!
Regards, Nish
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Samsung it is. If there are no options other than Samsung or Sony, I'd go without a tv. Sony has to pay me to buy their stuff.
Thanks, I am 99% decided on Samsung now!
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
If you don't know why shouldn't you get one of those, then you shouldn't be spending more money to have that useless "feature".
Well after I buy the TV I don't want to find out that I can't add some new cool feature because my TV does not support it.
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Panasonic are a bit nicer but more expensive.
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Thank you, Mika, very helpful!
Mika Wendelius wrote:
Remember that the height is relevant in wide screen tv's, not the diagonal as it used to be in 4:3 tv's
What is this so?
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Mika Wendelius wrote:
Remember that the height is relevant in wide screen tv's, not the diagonal as
it used to be in 4:3 tv'sWhat is this so?
Sorry, mainly it was bad english :) What I mean is that in 4:3 televisions the optimal viewing distance was defined by the distance from lower left corner to upper right corner. This lenght was typically multiplied by 3 or 4 to get the optimal distance. In 16:9 televisions this is not reasonable anymore since the width falsely dominates this kind of calculation. So the important measure is the height of the tv panel. If I have understood correctly the optimal viewing distance is 4 to 6 times the height of the panel. Oh, and one more opinion. Most likely you won't buy too large tv. For a month or two after buying a new one it seems very big but after half a year you cannot understand how were you able to ever watch the smaller tv... So it comes back to price/quality -ratio (including expectations :)).
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Mika Wendelius wrote:
Remember that the height is relevant in wide screen tv's, not the diagonal as
it used to be in 4:3 tv'sWhat is this so?
Sorry, mainly it was bad english :) What I mean is that in 4:3 televisions the optimal viewing distance was defined by the distance from lower left corner to upper right corner. This lenght was typically multiplied by 3 or 4 to get the optimal distance. In 16:9 televisions this is not reasonable anymore since the width falsely dominates this kind of calculation. So the important measure is the height of the tv panel. If I have understood correctly the optimal viewing distance is 4 to 6 times the height of the panel. Oh, and one more opinion. Most likely you won't buy too large tv. For a month or two after buying a new one it seems very big but after half a year you cannot understand how were you able to ever watch the smaller tv... So it comes back to price/quality -ratio (including expectations :)).
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Thank you Mika, that was very helpful! :thumbsup:
Regards, Nish
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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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- LED provide there own light, LCD require a backlight, Don't rule out plasma yet! Above 50" for fast action and Movies, plasma is still supposedly better. 2) The bigger the better, you can never have a big enough telly, trust me, I just love mine and went from the 50 to 63". 3) I think samsung is better. 4) Not if you don't want to, however, they are coming with the likes of LoveFilm etc, so you can stream movies direct on demand. Also you can use BBC iPlayer etc, and watch TV shows via youtube (YT are also rumoured to start streaming movies also soon on PPV). You can also steam movies etc from home media servers. Samsungs do a wireless usb dongle for Wifi. 3DTV again, not a necessity, but after playing Call Of Duty Black Ops in 3D, hell yeah! Now, technology moves so quickly, when i bought mine, i didn't go for latest and greatest, but it does have internet and 3D and is full HD, but in a few years there will be QuadHD, Glasses free 3D and god knows what else. One thing to check is what tuner it has, e.g. in the UK, if you want to get free HD Freeview Content, then it must have a DVB-T2 tuner, standard non-hd freeview is DVB-T. So, i would say, the biggest that will look ok in the space you, make sure it is 1080p HD, has an HD Tuner, and don't rule out plasma! Here's mine: linky[^] And it arriving, and going up on the wall: linky[^]
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- LED provide there own light, LCD require a backlight, Don't rule out plasma yet! Above 50" for fast action and Movies, plasma is still supposedly better. 2) The bigger the better, you can never have a big enough telly, trust me, I just love mine and went from the 50 to 63". 3) I think samsung is better. 4) Not if you don't want to, however, they are coming with the likes of LoveFilm etc, so you can stream movies direct on demand. Also you can use BBC iPlayer etc, and watch TV shows via youtube (YT are also rumoured to start streaming movies also soon on PPV). You can also steam movies etc from home media servers. Samsungs do a wireless usb dongle for Wifi. 3DTV again, not a necessity, but after playing Call Of Duty Black Ops in 3D, hell yeah! Now, technology moves so quickly, when i bought mine, i didn't go for latest and greatest, but it does have internet and 3D and is full HD, but in a few years there will be QuadHD, Glasses free 3D and god knows what else. One thing to check is what tuner it has, e.g. in the UK, if you want to get free HD Freeview Content, then it must have a DVB-T2 tuner, standard non-hd freeview is DVB-T. So, i would say, the biggest that will look ok in the space you, make sure it is 1080p HD, has an HD Tuner, and don't rule out plasma! Here's mine: linky[^] And it arriving, and going up on the wall: linky[^]
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Dave - 'so called' LED TVs are LCD TVs with LED backlight. The ones called LCD TVs are LCD TVs with cold cathode fluourescent backlights (CCFL, often abbrivated to CFL). There are no true LED TVs in production unfortunately, they would be nice. We have a C7000 at work and the only problem is that sometimes it doesn't detect HDMI devices being plugged in while active, this is a known issue.
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- LED provide there own light, LCD require a backlight, Don't rule out plasma yet! Above 50" for fast action and Movies, plasma is still supposedly better. 2) The bigger the better, you can never have a big enough telly, trust me, I just love mine and went from the 50 to 63". 3) I think samsung is better. 4) Not if you don't want to, however, they are coming with the likes of LoveFilm etc, so you can stream movies direct on demand. Also you can use BBC iPlayer etc, and watch TV shows via youtube (YT are also rumoured to start streaming movies also soon on PPV). You can also steam movies etc from home media servers. Samsungs do a wireless usb dongle for Wifi. 3DTV again, not a necessity, but after playing Call Of Duty Black Ops in 3D, hell yeah! Now, technology moves so quickly, when i bought mine, i didn't go for latest and greatest, but it does have internet and 3D and is full HD, but in a few years there will be QuadHD, Glasses free 3D and god knows what else. One thing to check is what tuner it has, e.g. in the UK, if you want to get free HD Freeview Content, then it must have a DVB-T2 tuner, standard non-hd freeview is DVB-T. So, i would say, the biggest that will look ok in the space you, make sure it is 1080p HD, has an HD Tuner, and don't rule out plasma! Here's mine: linky[^] And it arriving, and going up on the wall: linky[^]
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Thank you Dave, that was very helpful!
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model?
Beyond a point, it all becomes vague. Play the same video on an LED and an LCD tv. If you can't make out any difference, then go with the cheaper one.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV?
What Max said.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too?
Samsung it is. If there are no options other than Samsung or Sony, I'd go without a tv. Sony has to pay me to buy their stuff.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these?
If you don't know why shouldn't you get one of those, then you shouldn't be spending more money to have that useless "feature".
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
If you don't know why shouldn't you get one of those, then you shouldn't be spending more money to have that useless "feature".
I'd much rather have TV with LAN and without HDMI then the other way around. It's far from useless.
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Dave - 'so called' LED TVs are LCD TVs with LED backlight. The ones called LCD TVs are LCD TVs with cold cathode fluourescent backlights (CCFL, often abbrivated to CFL). There are no true LED TVs in production unfortunately, they would be nice. We have a C7000 at work and the only problem is that sometimes it doesn't detect HDMI devices being plugged in while active, this is a known issue.
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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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I have two Sharps, a Vizio, and a Sony. The Sharps have a better picture without a doubt. Do you have a Costco in your area?
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That is true, with the exception of OLED which are small, and very expensive!!!! can't wait until they are available at current TV prices and big sizes :)
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Panasonic are a bit nicer but more expensive.
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I would not go for Panasonic. We have two and both remote controls broke down after a couple of months... And no, it's not us. The replacements we bought (non-Panasonic) have worked for many years now ;)
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Panasonic are a bit nicer but more expensive.
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Trollslayer wrote:
Panasonic are a bit nicer but more expensive.
I agree with you completely. I've a Panasonic at home, but I thought I'd pick one of the two choices he had in mind. :)
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
If you don't know why shouldn't you get one of those, then you shouldn't be spending more money to have that useless "feature".
I'd much rather have TV with LAN and without HDMI then the other way around. It's far from useless.
I'm saying that it's useless if he were a guy like me. I don't watch TV at all, so I wouldn't really bother to have some extra money spent on having a LAN feature on it (actually I don't even know all the available features on my TV - may be it has a LAN option too). However, if you are using a feature and like it, then it's different.
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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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I have a Samsung 46 inch LCD. The picture quality is very good, and the sound is OK. 1. I couldn't find a lot of difference in picture quality between the two, atleast not enough to justify the premium. LED seemed to have better contrast and would consume less energy. 2. 46 inch screen, according to me is huge, especially after upgrading from a 21 inch screen. :-D 4. As for internet enabled, if you already have a net enabled set top box, you may skip this. If not, it's worth opting for. There are some built in apps that let you watch Hulu and a host of other video sites. I'd definitely rate the internet capabilities of the TV better than Roku, although Roku has wider channel offerings. The TV is crammed with enough ports to be able to connect whatever you want though. Happy viewing. :-D
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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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Hey Nish, 1. There really isn't any such thing as an LED TV - they are all actually LCD TVs but they use LEDs as the backlight - which allows them to be thinner and generate less heat (and use less power, I think). The actual mechanism of the screen is otherwise identical -it's jsut LED backlight vs a bunch of candles, or whatever the other LCD TVs use. In my experience, the LCDs look maybe brighter and I'm told the contrast is better - but honestly I couldn't tell much of a difference. 2. No. Buy the TV that is right for the size of room and viewing position - remember the bigger the TV the larger the pixels so if you are sitting close to a large TV it can actually look much worse than sitting further away ot looking at a smaller TV. (up to a point, obviously - sitting 1km away from a 1cm screen, by my logic, should look fantastic and, honestly, you'll see no pixellation!) 3. Personal preferences. I have a Sony - picture is good, sound is nice, it's all fine. But the menuing system is horrible - and it's something I regret not playing with before I bought it! It can take me a minute to choose and select the channel I want. I watch most TV through Foxtel now - even thought its' not HD - cuz I can't be arsed with the Sony TV menu. 4. Internet TVs are about as useful as Internet fridges. Internet enabled PVRs - fineand useful. Get a PS3 then you have internet (wireless) BluRay player, music library oh, and games!
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I am looking to buy a new TV and I'm kinda confused at all the options. I know some of you are TV buffs here, so I hope you guys will know more on these things. 1) LED vs LCD. What's the deal here? The LED models seem to be much pricier for the same TV size. To be safe should I go with an LED model? 2) 46, 52 or 55? 46 inch TVs are half the price of 55 inch TVs. 52 inch TVs seem to be rare these days (compared to 46 and 55). Is it worth spending double the cost to get the larger TV? 3) Samsung vs Sony. Two of my friends have strongly recommended that I get a Samsung. Is this the general consensus too? 4) Internet enabled TVs. Why should I get one of these? What will I lose if my TV does not have a LAN point? BTW I don't think I want a 3D TV so I am not looking for those. Thanks to everyone who has any advice/suggestions for me.
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- 46, 52 or 55?
Imho, your decision should be based on the intended viewing distance, not price.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Samsung vs Sony.
Imho, Samsung beats the pants of both Sony and Sharp. /ravi
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- 46, 52 or 55?
Imho, your decision should be based on the intended viewing distance, not price.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Samsung vs Sony.
Imho, Samsung beats the pants of both Sony and Sharp. /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
Imho, Samsung beats the pants of both Sony and Sharp.
Thanks Ravi. I went to a Best Buy and Sears and I looked at all their TVs for a good while. I agree with you, Samsung did seem the best. Although it may all depend on how they've tuned the TVs.
Regards, Nish
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