Pearl Harbor Day
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Marc Clifton wrote: The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. Oh so there is a candidate you guys actually like? Or is anybody else better IYHO? :-D
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Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Paul Watson wrote: Oh so there is a candidate you guys actually like? Nope, we don't do likeable candidates. Elections just give us the chance to pick the one we detest the least...
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Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need...
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Funny, Google doesn't even have an article on it in their "top news stories". It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Oh boy, now I've gone and depressed myself. Doesn't really seem like we've figured out how to live with each other yet, does it? And it certainly seems that George Bush hasn't figured out how to live with anyone, let alone them with him. The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. And yet, his popularity poll is so high. Well, as I heard on a talkshow on NPR, the popularity polls are a lot of propaganda--they ask surface level questions and then say Bush is popular because people agree, in very general terms, with his policies. But if you ask deeper questions, you find that people start disagreeing with his policies. This means the polls are basically useless, people are really shallow, or both. I subscribe to both. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian GrausMarc Clifton wrote: It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Not to mention 61 years... :| Mike Mullikin :beer:
It is really hard to be a professional and do things right, in a company full of monkeys. - Michael P. Butler, The Soapbox
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Funny, Google doesn't even have an article on it in their "top news stories". It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Oh boy, now I've gone and depressed myself. Doesn't really seem like we've figured out how to live with each other yet, does it? And it certainly seems that George Bush hasn't figured out how to live with anyone, let alone them with him. The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. And yet, his popularity poll is so high. Well, as I heard on a talkshow on NPR, the popularity polls are a lot of propaganda--they ask surface level questions and then say Bush is popular because people agree, in very general terms, with his policies. But if you ask deeper questions, you find that people start disagreeing with his policies. This means the polls are basically useless, people are really shallow, or both. I subscribe to both. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Grausi'm typing with one hand, so excuse me. But everyone likes to push a single point forward. You have no clue as to what is really happening. i've seen mass weapons (in the hands of crazy people) and whatever the free world is going to do to stop it, well, i'm for it. does anyone here look at the whole picture? have you personally heard some of these other country's leaders talk? does any one here have a background in biological weapons? in traditional weapons? in anything that look t this whole mess as one? Anybody care to really get into the details???? are are you going to take one point and run with it, and not really know what the **** you are talking about. My brother used to be a Navy Seal. He gave his life for his country. He died being proud of his country. He had one regret, about helping people who were selfish and didn't cherish his country as much as he did. But, he believed in his country. And he did his duty. God Bless you Bro,
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Funny, Google doesn't even have an article on it in their "top news stories". It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Oh boy, now I've gone and depressed myself. Doesn't really seem like we've figured out how to live with each other yet, does it? And it certainly seems that George Bush hasn't figured out how to live with anyone, let alone them with him. The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. And yet, his popularity poll is so high. Well, as I heard on a talkshow on NPR, the popularity polls are a lot of propaganda--they ask surface level questions and then say Bush is popular because people agree, in very general terms, with his policies. But if you ask deeper questions, you find that people start disagreeing with his policies. This means the polls are basically useless, people are really shallow, or both. I subscribe to both. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian GrausMany people that go to my school remembered it last night by getting "bombed" at the biggest drinking party of the year. They had many kegs of Bud Light and Killigan's Red as well as some punch that could kill a horse. I had to check on a friend this morning because I heard that after more than a dozen cups of the punch he prayed to the porcelin god and passed out in the back room at the party. It turned out that he was fine. They also had 2 local bands play, and they were pretty good. Very good times for stressed out college students:) Brad Jennings
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i'm typing with one hand, so excuse me. But everyone likes to push a single point forward. You have no clue as to what is really happening. i've seen mass weapons (in the hands of crazy people) and whatever the free world is going to do to stop it, well, i'm for it. does anyone here look at the whole picture? have you personally heard some of these other country's leaders talk? does any one here have a background in biological weapons? in traditional weapons? in anything that look t this whole mess as one? Anybody care to really get into the details???? are are you going to take one point and run with it, and not really know what the **** you are talking about. My brother used to be a Navy Seal. He gave his life for his country. He died being proud of his country. He had one regret, about helping people who were selfish and didn't cherish his country as much as he did. But, he believed in his country. And he did his duty. God Bless you Bro,
zenboy wrote: does anyone here look at the whole picture? no, of course not. we're all total idiots. but, if shortsightedness and single-mindedness is good enough for the President, it must be good enough for his subjects, too. -c
There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic
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Bush isn't looking for trouble. Trouble just comes to Bush. Bush isn't just working for America. He's working to provide a common security for all nations which in the end provides security for America. Trouble makers have to be dealt with firmly. A growing trouble maker can not be allowed to grow into a global threat. Each must be dealt with firmly. No one should be allowed to threaten the free world. Bush doesn't start the trouble. Bush is just reacting to those who would threaten America and its allies. The alternative of the soft hand of diplomacy has only allowed the progress of North Korea's nuclear program and many missed opportunities against Al Qaeda. Being soft will never quench the maniacal desires of tyrants and madmen. Nobody wants their nation to be in a confrontational situations, but how can threats be eliminated in a non confrontational manner? Being nice only works with reasonable nations. For the unreasonable, the heavy hand is the only thing that will be respected. Nobody likes this situation, but walking away from confrontations can only result in the threat growing larger.
Bollocks. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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i'm typing with one hand, so excuse me. But everyone likes to push a single point forward. You have no clue as to what is really happening. i've seen mass weapons (in the hands of crazy people) and whatever the free world is going to do to stop it, well, i'm for it. does anyone here look at the whole picture? have you personally heard some of these other country's leaders talk? does any one here have a background in biological weapons? in traditional weapons? in anything that look t this whole mess as one? Anybody care to really get into the details???? are are you going to take one point and run with it, and not really know what the **** you are talking about. My brother used to be a Navy Seal. He gave his life for his country. He died being proud of his country. He had one regret, about helping people who were selfish and didn't cherish his country as much as he did. But, he believed in his country. And he did his duty. God Bless you Bro,
Just because your brother was a good and decent person with high ideals, does not commute those ideals to those who gave him his orders. If you think the media is giving you the whole picture, I'm about to put Los Angeles up for auction on ebay but to avoid fees, you can have it for only $1,000. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Funny, Google doesn't even have an article on it in their "top news stories". It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Oh boy, now I've gone and depressed myself. Doesn't really seem like we've figured out how to live with each other yet, does it? And it certainly seems that George Bush hasn't figured out how to live with anyone, let alone them with him. The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. And yet, his popularity poll is so high. Well, as I heard on a talkshow on NPR, the popularity polls are a lot of propaganda--they ask surface level questions and then say Bush is popular because people agree, in very general terms, with his policies. But if you ask deeper questions, you find that people start disagreeing with his policies. This means the polls are basically useless, people are really shallow, or both. I subscribe to both. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Bollocks. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Paul Watson wrote: Oh so there is a candidate you guys actually like? Nope, we don't do likeable candidates. Elections just give us the chance to pick the one we detest the least...
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Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need...
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...assuming you count the votes correctly :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
phykell wrote: assuming you count the votes correctly Counting them isn't the trouble; getting the bewildered elderly in Florida to remember from election to election how to punch little holes in pieces of paper is a challenge, though. It takes them forever, too. Next election we're taking away their Depends to make the lines move a bit quicker. We can use the chad from the ballots to sweep up the messes on the floor. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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Zenboy wrote: My brother used to be a Navy Seal. He gave his life for his country. He died being proud of his country.. Let everyone knows that the important objects for us: ( OIL + SHARON) RJS
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Bollocks. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Christian Graus wrote: Bollocks. Because you say so or do you have anything substantial to add? Mike Mullikin :beer:
It is really hard to be a professional and do things right, in a company full of monkeys. - Michael P. Butler, The Soapbox
No, I'm sick of arguing. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Pakistan and India have nukes, why is this less of a travesty than North Korea having them ? What about the USA ? Saddam was a lunatic while the US armed him, and no less so when the US was at his border in 1991. So what has changed all of a sudden ? We are told to toe the line and send our children to die in Bushes war, a war which American UN inspectors say will happen no matter what Iraq does, because Bush is setting it up that way. I prefer to think for myself rather than believe what is fed to me by people with no reason to tell me the truth. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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No, I'm sick of arguing. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Pakistan and India have nukes, why is this less of a travesty than North Korea having them ? What about the USA ? Saddam was a lunatic while the US armed him, and no less so when the US was at his border in 1991. So what has changed all of a sudden ? We are told to toe the line and send our children to die in Bushes war, a war which American UN inspectors say will happen no matter what Iraq does, because Bush is setting it up that way. I prefer to think for myself rather than believe what is fed to me by people with no reason to tell me the truth. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
I knew you had an opinion to express, much better than bollocks - don't you think? Christian Graus wrote: We are told to toe the line and send our children to die in Bushes war, a war which American UN inspectors say will happen no matter what Iraq does, because Bush is setting it up that way. I prefer to think for myself rather than believe what is fed to me by people with no reason to tell me the truth. As do I. Did you ever consider maybe Bush is simply threatening Saddam with the only thing he understands? Mike Mullikin :beer:
It is really hard to be a professional and do things right, in a company full of monkeys. - Michael P. Butler, The Soapbox
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I knew you had an opinion to express, much better than bollocks - don't you think? Christian Graus wrote: We are told to toe the line and send our children to die in Bushes war, a war which American UN inspectors say will happen no matter what Iraq does, because Bush is setting it up that way. I prefer to think for myself rather than believe what is fed to me by people with no reason to tell me the truth. As do I. Did you ever consider maybe Bush is simply threatening Saddam with the only thing he understands? Mike Mullikin :beer:
It is really hard to be a professional and do things right, in a company full of monkeys. - Michael P. Butler, The Soapbox
The real questions are why now, and why like this ? Why complain about North Korea and not India/Pakistan ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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I knew you had an opinion to express, much better than bollocks - don't you think? Christian Graus wrote: We are told to toe the line and send our children to die in Bushes war, a war which American UN inspectors say will happen no matter what Iraq does, because Bush is setting it up that way. I prefer to think for myself rather than believe what is fed to me by people with no reason to tell me the truth. As do I. Did you ever consider maybe Bush is simply threatening Saddam with the only thing he understands? Mike Mullikin :beer:
It is really hard to be a professional and do things right, in a company full of monkeys. - Michael P. Butler, The Soapbox
Mike Mullikin wrote: Did you ever consider maybe Bush is simply threatening Saddam with the only thing he understands? I guess I should put forward my theory instead of just asking questions. He can't catch Osama, so he's getting people to confuse the two, so they think he's going after the greater evil and so doesn't go down in history as a loser President who only served one term because he couldn't catch the bad guy. I'm not starting the Saddam fan club, I just don't think it's as black and white as they would like us to think. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Zenboy wrote: My brother used to be a Navy Seal. He gave his life for his country. He died being proud of his country.. Let everyone knows that the important objects for us: ( OIL + SHARON) RJS
zarzor wrote: Let everyone knows that the important objects for us: ( OIL + SHARON) :confused: WTF? Don't get me wrong, Sharon's a great gal, and i'm sure there are many who would love to see her covered with oil... But, it's rather disrespectful (not to mention distressingly confusing) to bring up your personal fetishes when someone is talking about his dead brother... :|
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Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need...
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Funny, Google doesn't even have an article on it in their "top news stories". It seems so distant all of a sudden, what with 9/11, Bush, Iraq, Bush, Al Queda, Bush, Israel and Palestine, Bush, Kenya, Bush, Indonesia, Bush, North Korea, Bush, Pakistan and India, Bush, Saudi Arabia, Bush, etc.etc.etc. Oh boy, now I've gone and depressed myself. Doesn't really seem like we've figured out how to live with each other yet, does it? And it certainly seems that George Bush hasn't figured out how to live with anyone, let alone them with him. The 2004 elections can't come fast enough for me. And yet, his popularity poll is so high. Well, as I heard on a talkshow on NPR, the popularity polls are a lot of propaganda--they ask surface level questions and then say Bush is popular because people agree, in very general terms, with his policies. But if you ask deeper questions, you find that people start disagreeing with his policies. This means the polls are basically useless, people are really shallow, or both. I subscribe to both. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian GrausDubya tells me I shouldn't care about Pearl Harbor, and that it probably never even really happened.
At least, that's what he's doing to all the veterans; wasting their deaths and sacrifice by rescinding rights they died to win. evilpen dot net::msn messenger:negacao@hotmail.com
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The real questions are why now, and why like this ? Why complain about North Korea and not India/Pakistan ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Why complain about North Korea and not India/Pakistan ? Because America has already done that and stopped after sometime. How long can you go on complaining about the same thing over and over again? The Clinton government imposed economic and others sanctions* on India and Pakistan. These sanctions were later removed because of the lobby in the US. India used to be America's Most Favoured Nation in the textile industry. And don't forget about the software indistry. A full 8% of all US trade happens with India (I read this somewhere sometime back. If you ask me to back it up, I may or may not be able to do so, but I'll have to look it up). When you stop that, people start complaining. India wasn't much affected because most of that 8% consisted of things exported from the US. So it was mostly the US businessmen who came under the axe. Anyway... And I remember it was so funny about Pakistan. I read in the newspaper that if the sanctions had not been lifted for another six weeks, Pakistan would have started starving. So the sanctions were lifted from the both the countries at about the same time I think. Imagine, these guys didn't have money for food, and they were spending it on nukes and warplanes and such instead. When will they ever learn to set their priorities right? Another question could be, why is the US complaining about India/Pakistan/N Korea/others when they themselves have the nukes? OK, so they have shown restraint over the past 60 or so years, but they still have it, and if someone else says they need to have it, they have no "logical reason" to say no you can't have it to them, especially if that someone is India, and not Iraq. It would be interesting if someone could shed more light on this, since this happened a few years ago, and I have never been interested in things to remember it all very clearly for so long. So I could be wrong in any or all of my statements above, though I don't think I am. ;P *(I am a bit confused here. Don't you sanction a grant when you give money to someone, or don't you sanction an event that you let happen? So how can the "penalty" that was imposed on us also be called a sanction? Anyway English is not my first language, so I'll never understand it completely.)
Regards,Rohit Sinha