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  • B Ben Breeg

    Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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    OriginalGriff
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    No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • B Ben Breeg

      Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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      David1987
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      Read ECMA 334[^] - yes it's long and mostly boring and repetitive, but if you even remember a quarter of it you will know more about C# than most. Then, read Eric Lipperts blog[^], and you will soon know enough about C# to help in the programming forums ;)

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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        David1987
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

        They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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        • B Ben Breeg

          Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Benjamin Breeg wrote:

          As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

          Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

          ' VB.NET version.
          Public Class TheClass
          Private m_someCount As Integer
          Public Property SomeCount As Integer
          Get
          Return Me.m_someCount
          End Get
          Set(value As Integer)
          Me.m_someCount = value
          End Set
          End Property
          Public Sub New()
          Me.SomeCount = 0
          End Sub
          Public Sub DoStuff()
          MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
          End Sub
          End Class

          // C# version.
          public class TheClass
          {
          private int m_someCount;
          public int SomeCount
          {
          get
          {
          return this.m_someCount;
          }
          set
          {
          this.m_someCount = value;
          }
          }
          public TheClass()
          {
          this.SomeCount = 0;
          }
          public void DoStuff()
          {
          MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
          }
          }

          I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

          Chris Maunder wrote:

          Fixign now.

          But who's fixing the fixign?

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          • B Ben Breeg

            Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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            AspDotNetDev
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            One more thing. If you are into making games, you might want to read an XNA book.

            Benjamin Breeg wrote:

            online resources

            I'm sure there must be a few Code Project articles related to C# that would interest you. For example, "Quick C#" seems to cover the basics, though it doesn't cover some of the syntax in the new versions of C#. It also leaves out some of the advanced stuff, like generics and LINQ. A book would probably be better if you want more comprehensive coverage.

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            Fixign now.

            But who's fixing the fixign?

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            • D David1987

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

              They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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              OriginalGriff
              wrote on last edited by
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              And there they will stay! Despite the whole language using them for everything and hiding it from view... :laugh:

              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • B Ben Breeg

                Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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                JimmyRopes
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                Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                Sorry for your luck.

                Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

                Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

                Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

                C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

                Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                  Ben Breeg
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                  Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

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                  • B Ben Breeg

                    Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

                    OriginalGriffO Online
                    OriginalGriffO Online
                    OriginalGriff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    Welcome!

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • J JimmyRopes

                      Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                      someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                      Sorry for your luck.

                      Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                      Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

                      Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

                      Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                      Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

                      C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                      Ben Breeg
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                      #11

                      Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                        As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                        Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

                        ' VB.NET version.
                        Public Class TheClass
                        Private m_someCount As Integer
                        Public Property SomeCount As Integer
                        Get
                        Return Me.m_someCount
                        End Get
                        Set(value As Integer)
                        Me.m_someCount = value
                        End Set
                        End Property
                        Public Sub New()
                        Me.SomeCount = 0
                        End Sub
                        Public Sub DoStuff()
                        MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
                        End Sub
                        End Class

                        // C# version.
                        public class TheClass
                        {
                        private int m_someCount;
                        public int SomeCount
                        {
                        get
                        {
                        return this.m_someCount;
                        }
                        set
                        {
                        this.m_someCount = value;
                        }
                        }
                        public TheClass()
                        {
                        this.SomeCount = 0;
                        }
                        public void DoStuff()
                        {
                        MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
                        }
                        }

                        I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        Fixign now.

                        But who's fixing the fixign?

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                        Ben Breeg
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        Thanks for providing the code samples. There doesn't appear to be a great difference between the two on the face of it, but I'm sure they'll be a few subtleties that'll catch me out. :laugh:

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                        • B Ben Breeg

                          Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          #13

                          Yes it is just syntax once you are familiar with the .net foundation. You'll find C# to be much less writing so you can concentrate on what it is you are trying to accomplish. You'll get used to it is a short time.

                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          • B Ben Breeg

                            Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            I haven't read the book, but the man is a genius, so I will recommend Job Skeet's C# In Depth.

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