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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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    David1987
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

    They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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    • B Ben Breeg

      Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Benjamin Breeg wrote:

      As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

      Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

      ' VB.NET version.
      Public Class TheClass
      Private m_someCount As Integer
      Public Property SomeCount As Integer
      Get
      Return Me.m_someCount
      End Get
      Set(value As Integer)
      Me.m_someCount = value
      End Set
      End Property
      Public Sub New()
      Me.SomeCount = 0
      End Sub
      Public Sub DoStuff()
      MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
      End Sub
      End Class

      // C# version.
      public class TheClass
      {
      private int m_someCount;
      public int SomeCount
      {
      get
      {
      return this.m_someCount;
      }
      set
      {
      this.m_someCount = value;
      }
      }
      public TheClass()
      {
      this.SomeCount = 0;
      }
      public void DoStuff()
      {
      MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
      }
      }

      I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

      Chris Maunder wrote:

      Fixign now.

      But who's fixing the fixign?

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      • B Ben Breeg

        Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        One more thing. If you are into making games, you might want to read an XNA book.

        Benjamin Breeg wrote:

        online resources

        I'm sure there must be a few Code Project articles related to C# that would interest you. For example, "Quick C#" seems to cover the basics, though it doesn't cover some of the syntax in the new versions of C#. It also leaves out some of the advanced stuff, like generics and LINQ. A book would probably be better if you want more comprehensive coverage.

        Chris Maunder wrote:

        Fixign now.

        But who's fixing the fixign?

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        • D David1987

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

          They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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          OriginalGriff
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          And there they will stay! Despite the whole language using them for everything and hiding it from view... :laugh:

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • B Ben Breeg

            Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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            JimmyRopes
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            Benjamin Breeg wrote:

            someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

            Sorry for your luck.

            Benjamin Breeg wrote:

            Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

            Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

            Benjamin Breeg wrote:

            Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

            C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

            Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
            Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
            I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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              Ben Breeg
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              Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

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              • B Ben Breeg

                Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

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                OriginalGriff
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                #10

                Welcome!

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                  someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                  Sorry for your luck.

                  Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                  Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

                  Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

                  Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                  Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

                  C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

                  Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                  Ben Breeg
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                    As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                    Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

                    ' VB.NET version.
                    Public Class TheClass
                    Private m_someCount As Integer
                    Public Property SomeCount As Integer
                    Get
                    Return Me.m_someCount
                    End Get
                    Set(value As Integer)
                    Me.m_someCount = value
                    End Set
                    End Property
                    Public Sub New()
                    Me.SomeCount = 0
                    End Sub
                    Public Sub DoStuff()
                    MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
                    End Sub
                    End Class

                    // C# version.
                    public class TheClass
                    {
                    private int m_someCount;
                    public int SomeCount
                    {
                    get
                    {
                    return this.m_someCount;
                    }
                    set
                    {
                    this.m_someCount = value;
                    }
                    }
                    public TheClass()
                    {
                    this.SomeCount = 0;
                    }
                    public void DoStuff()
                    {
                    MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
                    }
                    }

                    I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    Fixign now.

                    But who's fixing the fixign?

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                    Ben Breeg
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    Thanks for providing the code samples. There doesn't appear to be a great difference between the two on the face of it, but I'm sure they'll be a few subtleties that'll catch me out. :laugh:

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                    • B Ben Breeg

                      Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      #13

                      Yes it is just syntax once you are familiar with the .net foundation. You'll find C# to be much less writing so you can concentrate on what it is you are trying to accomplish. You'll get used to it is a short time.

                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                      • B Ben Breeg

                        Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        I haven't read the book, but the man is a genius, so I will recommend Job Skeet's C# In Depth.

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