Better news from Red Gate
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http://www.reflector.net/2011/04/why-we-reversed-some-of-our-reflector-decision[^] Personally, I think this is the right decision (and the way they should have played it in the first place).
I suspect that they are worried by ILSpy.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I know a Dave Thompson - used to work at npower. Is that the one you're thinking of?
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It is indeed, I wouldn't be the dev I am today if I hadn't met him. I was offered the Job as a dev manager at npower a couple of years back, but something better turned up. Do you know Gary Coates, he worked there.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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It is indeed, I wouldn't be the dev I am today if I hadn't met him. I was offered the Job as a dev manager at npower a couple of years back, but something better turned up. Do you know Gary Coates, he worked there.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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It is indeed, I wouldn't be the dev I am today if I hadn't met him. I was offered the Job as a dev manager at npower a couple of years back, but something better turned up. Do you know Gary Coates, he worked there.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]The name's familiar. I may have had his CV across my desk at one time.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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http://www.reflector.net/2011/04/why-we-reversed-some-of-our-reflector-decision[^] Personally, I think this is the right decision (and the way they should have played it in the first place).
Their decision cost me several hours of sleep two months ago. Greedy buggers.
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The name's familiar. I may have had his CV across my desk at one time.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I may have had hims CV across my desk at one time.
Discipline is important in the workplace.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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http://www.reflector.net/2011/04/why-we-reversed-some-of-our-reflector-decision[^] Personally, I think this is the right decision (and the way they should have played it in the first place).
I still think RedGate's initial decision was justified, and the backlash was they've seen was way beyond reason.
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http://www.reflector.net/2011/04/why-we-reversed-some-of-our-reflector-decision[^] Personally, I think this is the right decision (and the way they should have played it in the first place).
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That's fantastic news!!! This is a bit of a long shot, but do you live in the North East of England? I've heard of two developers there by that name (except the other spells his name with a 'p', the best dev I ever worked with).
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]No I live in the South East but from Scotland originally.
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No I live in the South East but from Scotland originally.
devsWithYourNameCount++; Perhaps there is some weird kind of nominative determinism in play :-)
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I suspect that they are worried by ILSpy.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I hadn't known about ILSpy (me != .NETGeek). But I assumed that this could have been the result of some arising competition.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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I still think RedGate's initial decision was justified, and the backlash was they've seen was way beyond reason.
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyI think that the decision to have a paid-for version was justified. Given that I think that the decision to allow current versions to expire was misjudged. It would have been much better had they decided to do what they are now doing right from the start. The indecisiveness, and increased free competition makes it easier for the conspiracy theorists to point the finger. Bad PR all round from RedGate.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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http://www.reflector.net/2011/04/why-we-reversed-some-of-our-reflector-decision[^] Personally, I think this is the right decision (and the way they should have played it in the first place).
"We also figured that, after the initial emotional decision, people’s logic would kick in, they’d calm down, and they’d realise that asking people to pay less than the cost of a decent meal for a tool that they love isn’t, actually, terribly evil after all." If he thinks you need to pay more than $35 for a decent meal, I'm not sure if he's either a food snob or living somewhere very expensive. I might spend that much once or twice a year as a splurge item, but it's far outside my norm; and only makes their reality disconnect even more visible.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I think that the decision to have a paid-for version was justified. Given that I think that the decision to allow current versions to expire was misjudged. It would have been much better had they decided to do what they are now doing right from the start. The indecisiveness, and increased free competition makes it easier for the conspiracy theorists to point the finger. Bad PR all round from RedGate.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Henry Minute wrote:
Given that I think that the decision to allow current versions to expire was misjudged.
As I understand, expiration was implemented by Lutz Roeder himself, long before RedGate bought it. For me, this is a clear sign saying "It's free now, but not yours." I certainly understand that (a) losing a valuable tool hurts, and (b) $35 can be a lot for some people. However, the level of outrage against Red Gate was simply... uncivilized. I don't know a better word.
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Henry Minute wrote:
Given that I think that the decision to allow current versions to expire was misjudged.
As I understand, expiration was implemented by Lutz Roeder himself, long before RedGate bought it. For me, this is a clear sign saying "It's free now, but not yours." I certainly understand that (a) losing a valuable tool hurts, and (b) $35 can be a lot for some people. However, the level of outrage against Red Gate was simply... uncivilized. I don't know a better word.
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchypeterchen wrote:
As I understand, expiration was implemented by Lutz Roeder himself
Agreed.
peterchen wrote:
outrage against Red Gate was simply... uncivilized
Agreed. However RedGate had the code, they could (and should) have removed the expiry code.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.