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  • V Vark111

    Never criticize a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes. That way when you criticize him you're one mile away and he has no shoes.

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    Henry Minute
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    Yup. That way you're too far for him to reach and you have his shoes.

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      Just build up slowly. Mate of mine was massively over-weight, and when he started he couldn't run at all. Just walked. He walked ever increasing distances at ever increasing speeds. Then he started very slowly jogging a bit, then he started running. Forget how much weight he has lost, but he is quite literally half the man he used to be.

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      Dan Neely
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      ChrisElston wrote:

      Just build up slowly.
       
      Mate of mine was massively over-weight, and when he started he couldn't run at all. Just walked.

      Very important detail. If you're above 300ish(????) pounds jogging or other high impact exercises are an express highway to permanent joint damage and premature arthritis.

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      • A Andy Brummer

        Don't get expensive running shoes. Running barefoot or in a minimal shoe is better for your knees. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100104122310.htm[^]

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        Henry Minute
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        Apart from that, once you get past £90(ish) the extra cost doesn't bring any extra benefit, just increased profit for the manufacturer.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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          Sage wisdom. :-O

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            Apart from that, once you get past £90(ish) the extra cost doesn't bring any extra benefit, just increased profit for the manufacturer.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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            Andy Brummer
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            And greater risk of injury. Worn out running shoes also cause fewer injuries than brand new shoes. Our species has been running quite well without any kind of special running foot gear.

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            • H hairy_hats

              Am thinking of taking up jogging/running as a way to get fit...any advice to an unfit desk jockey (other than don't overdo it)?

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              wizardzz
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              If you are in the condition that you physically can, I would recommend sprints. Try sprint 1 minutes, walking 1-2 minutes, alternating for a half hour. It will destroy you. It's how I went from 180 to 145 pounds a few years back. When it gets warm out I will do it again, as I've surpassed my old "heavy" weight this winter. I never had the time to run for distances, and running sprints compacts the workout to a shorter time period. Also, runners get accustomed to running distances, their body gets more efficient and expels less energy (eventually you will burn less calories per same distance and pace). Sprinting helps counter this.

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                Andy Brummer wrote:

                Running barefoot

                Until you step on a sharp object and go ouch.

                -- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.

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                Andy Brummer
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                Pecan shells and some small rocks are the worst that I get in my neighborhood. If I'm running somewhere unfamiliar I'll wear a pair of 5 fingers[^]. Yes they are expensive, but I do most of my running full on barefoot, so they don't wear out that often, plus I get a fitness allowance at work to pay for them.

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  And greater risk of injury. Worn out running shoes also cause fewer injuries than brand new shoes. Our species has been running quite well without any kind of special running foot gear.

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                  wizardzz
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                  weather permitting!

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                  • A Andy Brummer

                    Don't get expensive running shoes. Running barefoot or in a minimal shoe is better for your knees. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100104122310.htm[^]

                    Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    That only works if you're among the 3% of humanity who have abso-frikkin-lutely perfect biomechanics.

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                      If you are in the condition that you physically can, I would recommend sprints. Try sprint 1 minutes, walking 1-2 minutes, alternating for a half hour. It will destroy you. It's how I went from 180 to 145 pounds a few years back. When it gets warm out I will do it again, as I've surpassed my old "heavy" weight this winter. I never had the time to run for distances, and running sprints compacts the workout to a shorter time period. Also, runners get accustomed to running distances, their body gets more efficient and expels less energy (eventually you will burn less calories per same distance and pace). Sprinting helps counter this.

                      Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      Andy Brummer
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                      Adding in some explosive weight work on top of this can increase the effectiveness even further, and helps with a more balanced appearance.

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                      • A Andy Brummer

                        And greater risk of injury. Worn out running shoes also cause fewer injuries than brand new shoes. Our species has been running quite well without any kind of special running foot gear.

                        Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                        Worn out running shoes also cause fewer injuries than brand new shoes.

                        Could that be due to the tendency of people to be new to their fitness regime when they get new shoes? Or maybe because they are not used to the weight/size of the shoe yet?

                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                        Our species has been running quite well without any kind of special running foot gear.

                        I think our life expectancy has also doubled or more in recent times. Brushing our teeth, antibiotics, keeping our joints in good shape... little things like that help to keep our fragile bodies from wearing out as soon as they used to. And with things like sidewalks (very hard and wouldn't be found in nature), we need a little extra shock absorbency.

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                        • S Slacker007

                          I have heard nothing but great things about pilates. However, I fear a loss in man points if I engage in any act of pilateism. :)

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                          Marcelo Ricardo de Oliveira
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                          I know what you mean. When I started pilates classes, my brother told me he didn't know men also did pilates :laugh:

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                          • A Andy Brummer

                            Adding in some explosive weight work on top of this can increase the effectiveness even further, and helps with a more balanced appearance.

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                            wizardzz
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                            Yep, I lost those 35 pounds in a summer. Given I wasn't huge to begin with it was a lot of work. Daily sprints and heavy weights. I ate a lot of brown rice, but didn't even give up drinking, just beer.

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                            • G Gary Wheeler

                              That only works if you're among the 3% of humanity who have abso-frikkin-lutely perfect biomechanics.

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                              Andy Brummer
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                              I must know a lot of the 3% then. I've also seen multiple studies with the same result. Your body adapts to running on a hard surface by exerting less pressure. Adding padding deadens your natural reaction and you end up landing harder and putting more stress on your body. It's not going to hurt you to just give it a try a few times and see.

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                              • H hairy_hats

                                Am thinking of taking up jogging/running as a way to get fit...any advice to an unfit desk jockey (other than don't overdo it)?

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                Must... not... evangelize... :-D (I've been running for almost 20 years) First off, congratulations for deciding to be more fit! Running is a great way to do it. It's inexpensive and doesn't take a lot of gear: a good pair of running shoes and you're all set. I recommend going to a running shoe store. Your typical mall store doesn't carry much in the way of running shoes, and the salespeople don't have the expertise to help you find the right kind of shoe. If you need help finding one in your area, contact your local running club. You can find a local club through Road Runners Club of America[^]. A good all-around resource to start out with is http://www.runnersworld.com[^]. Look under the 'Training' heading, and the 'Beginners' topic for lots of stuff that will help you out. Good luck!

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  Andy Brummer wrote:

                                  Worn out running shoes also cause fewer injuries than brand new shoes.

                                  Could that be due to the tendency of people to be new to their fitness regime when they get new shoes? Or maybe because they are not used to the weight/size of the shoe yet?

                                  Andy Brummer wrote:

                                  Our species has been running quite well without any kind of special running foot gear.

                                  I think our life expectancy has also doubled or more in recent times. Brushing our teeth, antibiotics, keeping our joints in good shape... little things like that help to keep our fragile bodies from wearing out as soon as they used to. And with things like sidewalks (very hard and wouldn't be found in nature), we need a little extra shock absorbency.

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                                  Andy Brummer
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                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  Could that be due to the tendency of people to be new to their fitness regime when they get new shoes? Or maybe because they are not used to the weight/size of the shoe yet?

                                  Also the padding hasn't broken down. :)

                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  I think our life expectancy has also doubled or more in recent times. Brushing our teeth, antibiotics, keeping our joints in good shape... little things like that help to keep our fragile bodies from wearing out as soon as they used to. And with things like sidewalks (very hard and wouldn't be found in nature), we need a little extra shock absorbency

                                  I'm talking specifically about running long distances with padded shoes. Some people do just fine with it. Many don't. Personally I go nearly barefoot or barefoot almost all the time, and I like the difference. My wife has a neuroma that orthotics and several years of treatments didn't fix. Going barefoot fixed it after a few months. It's anecdotal, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

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                                  • H hairy_hats

                                    Am thinking of taking up jogging/running as a way to get fit...any advice to an unfit desk jockey (other than don't overdo it)?

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                                    Doctor Nick
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                                    This[^] is where I started when I trained for a 20K. Worked out well. Started in January when it was cold on a treadmill and moved outside in March following a different training plan. Search for running plans if you have a goal (which I would highly recommend). Set a goal though because weight loss might not cut it. Start small with a 5K and go from there. Running without a race to look forward to is just exercise :-D

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                                      I must know a lot of the 3% then. I've also seen multiple studies with the same result. Your body adapts to running on a hard surface by exerting less pressure. Adding padding deadens your natural reaction and you end up landing harder and putting more stress on your body. It's not going to hurt you to just give it a try a few times and see.

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                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      I must know a lot of the 3% then. I've also seen multiple studies with the same result. Your body adapts to running on a hard surface by exerting less pressure. Adding padding deadens your natural reaction and you end up landing harder and putting more stress on your body. It's not going to hurt you to just give it a try a few times and see.

                                      Absolutely. I was convinced after reading Born to Run by Christopher McDougall. Now I run in cheap water shoes to protect my feet from rocks and whatnot (glass might cut through them, so I tend not to run on beds of broken glass). 5 fingers seem ridiculously overpriced to me. Going minimalist shouldn't be so damn expensive. Running shoes are not only a con job, they are actually harmful. I think some companies are catching on though, eliminating the stupidly cushy soles (especially in the heal) and marketing them as though they're leveraging some new technology. Yeah, it's called YOUR FEET.


                                      He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                                      • H hairy_hats

                                        Am thinking of taking up jogging/running as a way to get fit...any advice to an unfit desk jockey (other than don't overdo it)?

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                                        Alan Balkany
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                                        Heard a disturbing fact the other day: Sitting for hours at a time, day after day (as in software development) is unhealthy even if you exercise well outside those 8 hours. I'm trying to get into the habit of taking a short walk every hour or two, but it's easy to forget while immersed in code.

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                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          I must know a lot of the 3% then. I've also seen multiple studies with the same result. Your body adapts to running on a hard surface by exerting less pressure. Adding padding deadens your natural reaction and you end up landing harder and putting more stress on your body. It's not going to hurt you to just give it a try a few times and see.

                                          Absolutely. I was convinced after reading Born to Run by Christopher McDougall. Now I run in cheap water shoes to protect my feet from rocks and whatnot (glass might cut through them, so I tend not to run on beds of broken glass). 5 fingers seem ridiculously overpriced to me. Going minimalist shouldn't be so damn expensive. Running shoes are not only a con job, they are actually harmful. I think some companies are catching on though, eliminating the stupidly cushy soles (especially in the heal) and marketing them as though they're leveraging some new technology. Yeah, it's called YOUR FEET.


                                          He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                                          Yeah, the price tag on the 5 fingers is really high. I'm hoping that competition brings the cost down, and I do go barefoot for most of my running to cut down on the wear and tear. They do get plenty of questions and comments as I wear them all the time, even to work.

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