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I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
Part of it is showing that people like that will be found so the little people will know they aren't safe and it removes a figurehead. It may even start a bit of a power struggle and save western bullets.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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OBL getting shot in the head doesn't stop terrorism, we all know this but it is nice to see a prick get nailed in his end every now and then. :)
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
I'm just saying that if anyone thinks it's okay to let down their guard, they are sadly mistaken.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Assuming you really see some terrorists coming, would you really feel comfortable about most people you know getting ready to play minutemen? Most people I know I would hand nothing more lethal than a broom.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011Most people that *I* know? Yeah, I'm comfortable with that. Most people *you* know? If they have the means, yeah - I'm comfortable with that. Most of the people *I* know are equipped, trained, and experienced to react, defend, and even transition to an offensive posture. The people I hang with aren't exactly a "wait till they find us" kind of group.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
I think a lot of it has to do with closure. Someone had to pay for what happened and he was the main target. Just my 2 sense.
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Part of it is showing that people like that will be found so the little people will know they aren't safe and it removes a figurehead. It may even start a bit of a power struggle and save western bullets.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
From what I've seen, their command and control structure is pretty good (they kicked the Russians out of Afghanistan and are doing a pretty good job on the US there as well), and if anyone thinks an order of succession wasn't established immediately after 9/11 are sadly mistaken. There will be little/no effect on their operations, and for all we know, Osama's death may have been the trigger to activate a number of sleeper cells around the world. Call me cynical if you want to...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
"Wreak havoc" May be you should search for this word , through USA AND Israel history. Ask the history about those ... Vietnam Japan Afghanistan Iraq Palestine Iran
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
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I'm just saying that if anyone thinks it's okay to let down their guard, they are sadly mistaken.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
if anyone thinks it's okay to let down their guard, they are sadly mistaken.
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-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
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I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
Because that means airport security is supposed to go back to the way it was, the patriot act is supposed to get canned, and all this anti-terrorism, infinite war stuff is supposed to end. The goal was to catch or kill him, so it is over right? And yes, I am the conservative.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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From what I've seen, their command and control structure is pretty good (they kicked the Russians out of Afghanistan and are doing a pretty good job on the US there as well), and if anyone thinks an order of succession wasn't established immediately after 9/11 are sadly mistaken. There will be little/no effect on their operations, and for all we know, Osama's death may have been the trigger to activate a number of sleeper cells around the world. Call me cynical if you want to...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The orgainzation and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place. After this incident which was condemed by every society, nothing happened in US. But Afghanistan and Iraq were burnt for searching. The same is happening in Pakistan now.
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Because that means airport security is supposed to go back to the way it was, the patriot act is supposed to get canned, and all this anti-terrorism, infinite war stuff is supposed to end. The goal was to catch or kill him, so it is over right? And yes, I am the conservative.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
I believe it should be
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"Wreak havoc" May be you should search for this word , through USA AND Israel history. Ask the history about those ... Vietnam Japan Afghanistan Iraq Palestine Iran
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
No political discussions are allowed in the lounge. that's what the Backroom is for. BTW, your new sig isn't going to win you any friends here.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
people need closure. that's it that's all.
Watched code never compiles.
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Most people that *I* know? Yeah, I'm comfortable with that. Most people *you* know? If they have the means, yeah - I'm comfortable with that. Most of the people *I* know are equipped, trained, and experienced to react, defend, and even transition to an offensive posture. The people I hang with aren't exactly a "wait till they find us" kind of group.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Facinating. I know enough people, you would surely have some colorful name for their types, who are plain too dumb or to clumsy to be entrusted with any weapons. And arming them probably poses more of a threat than any terrorists.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
"Wreak havoc" May be you should search for this word , through USA AND Israel history. Ask the history about those ... Vietnam Japan Afghanistan Iraq Palestine Iran
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Japan
Evil despotic regime beaten by Allied Forces. Ask any Chinese to see how popular they were there, or anyone captured by them (especially the "comfort girls").
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Afghanistan
Beheading, stoning, public beating of women. Further repression of women who were only allowed to be medics as they weren't allowed to see a male doctor. Closure of education system to girls, and boys (the latter because most teachers were women). Drug dealing (contrary to their own idealogy)
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iraq
Man removed who gassed in the order of 100,000 of his own population, brutally torturing & repressing his people. Started a war with neighbouring country with little/no pretext.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Palestine
No direct US involvement
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iran
Theocracy with appalling human rights abuses.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Vietnam
OK they got that one wrong. 4-1 (with 1 result outstanding). What was your point again? Did you have one?
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:41 AM
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No political discussions are allowed in the lounge. that's what the Backroom is for. BTW, your new sig isn't going to win you any friends here.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The terrorists are still out there
Yes they are, we still have a lot of blow back from the Cold War and it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^]. Now this happened under Clinton, while being planned under Bush Senior. So who to blame is up to you and often depends on which political party you most identify with.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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From what I've seen, their command and control structure is pretty good (they kicked the Russians out of Afghanistan and are doing a pretty good job on the US there as well), and if anyone thinks an order of succession wasn't established immediately after 9/11 are sadly mistaken. There will be little/no effect on their operations, and for all we know, Osama's death may have been the trigger to activate a number of sleeper cells around the world. Call me cynical if you want to...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Al Qaeda is an odd one, the best way to look at it is as a fast food franchise: Fancy committing a terrorist atrocity? We'll train you to our standards and you can slap the al-Qaeda stamp of approval on it. That way the cell gets more notariety if they succede, and al-Qaeda looks bigger than it really is. I even heard the view expressed here that al-Qaeda doesn't exist in any meaninful sense, it is more a figurehead organisation. The hope is that with the charismatic [apparently] OBL gone, they'll attract fewer nut-jobs willing to murder in the name of whatever. The problem is, as you correctly point out, there is an increased likeliehood of reprisals in the short term at least.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^] -
Because that means airport security is supposed to go back to the way it was, the patriot act is supposed to get canned, and all this anti-terrorism, infinite war stuff is supposed to end. The goal was to catch or kill him, so it is over right? And yes, I am the conservative.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
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History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The orgainzation and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place. After this incident which was condemed by every society, nothing happened in US. But Afghanistan and Iraq were burnt for searching. The same is happening in Pakistan now.
I really hate to reply on this subject but there are just so many things that are wrong in this post.
Umair Feroze wrote:
History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The organization and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place.
Your need to really do research on the history of Ayman al-Zawahiri and Bin Laden. Anyways, nothing happened? Then all of a sudden 9/11? How about the USS Cole and the Embassies bombings? Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam. I don't want to turn this into a flame war. There is the BackRoom to serve the purpose.
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I Believe In GOD wrote:
Japan
Evil despotic regime beaten by Allied Forces. Ask any Chinese to see how popular they were there, or anyone captured by them (especially the "comfort girls").
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Afghanistan
Beheading, stoning, public beating of women. Further repression of women who were only allowed to be medics as they weren't allowed to see a male doctor. Closure of education system to girls, and boys (the latter because most teachers were women). Drug dealing (contrary to their own idealogy)
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iraq
Man removed who gassed in the order of 100,000 of his own population, brutally torturing & repressing his people. Started a war with neighbouring country with little/no pretext.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Palestine
No direct US involvement
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iran
Theocracy with appalling human rights abuses.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Vietnam
OK they got that one wrong. 4-1 (with 1 result outstanding). What was your point again? Did you have one?
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:41 AM
You really think your self got 4 points ? My English is not native , I find it very hard to express my self . USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights on Israel at Palestine . More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because She hate Islam , She Hate Leader who didn't corporate with her ! And Hollywood , show us as useless items in the movies . Again When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ? What about drug hat every USA home has ? What about the drugs between USA school kids ? In Palestine : Yes no direct involved Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ? You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ? what about the USA money help for Israel ? Iran : they fought Iran for nuclear peaceful nuclear they built not for human rights ! Please : TELL USA , to fix her mistake before searching for ours mistakes and judge us on them ! This talking is not for you in personal , I don't hate you , Nor I don't hate any USA citizen I just love peace , a balance ... People like you and me don't make wars , political are ! , And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
