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wolfbinary wrote:
it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].
I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.
The VAST majority of terrorists are motivated by two things - politics and religion. Of the religious ones, yes, there are probably terror groups for some religions other than islam, but of those religious terrorists, the vast and overwhelming majority are islamic (and when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists). Islamic terrorists don't like anybody that doesn't adhere to the strictest definition of Islam, including other islamic believers. If you want to stretch the motivational factors involved, islamic terrorists are also politically-motivated. For me personally, it is simply "terrorism" regardless of belief system or motivation. In some ways (and depending on who you ask), most government could even be considered terrorist organizations.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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I'm pretty accurate with a rock, but I much prefer a stand-off weapon.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)
9-11 was carried out with fucking boxcutters, so the official story goes...:suss:
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
Say you spot a terrorist at about 150 yards, what weapon do you run and get to put a bullet in his head? Or do you empty your 1911 clip aiming for the chest?
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?
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Facinating. I know enough people, you would surely have some colorful name for their types, who are plain too dumb or to clumsy to be entrusted with any weapons. And arming them probably poses more of a threat than any terrorists.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed.
You might be a little too left-brained to understand.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
I agree, and ditto the South Pacific, the Middle East, North Africa, and Europe.
Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?
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Say you spot a terrorist at about 150 yards, what weapon do you run and get to put a bullet in his head? Or do you empty your 1911 clip aiming for the chest?
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
The key is that I don't have to "run and get" a weapon. Head shots are for show-offs. If you want to do real damage real fast, center-mass is the only way.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
The key is that I don't have to "run and get" a weapon. Head shots are for show-offs. If you want to do real damage real fast, center-mass is the only way.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997So you're using the 1911 for a central cavity shot? Headshots are good for zombies and/or countering body armor, though. Especially if you only have a pistol on you.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Assuming you really see some terrorists coming, would you really feel comfortable about most people you know getting ready to play minutemen? Most people I know I would hand nothing more lethal than a broom.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011Hmm... Like John, most of my friends and neighbors aren't like that. I think they would give a good account of themselves. Given that my next door neighbor is a combat veteran, our chances are better than a lot of folks.
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So you're using the 1911 for a central cavity shot? Headshots are good for zombies and/or countering body armor, though. Especially if you only have a pistol on you.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Well, a head shot is the only thing that will kill a zombie, but we're talking about terrorists here. The first two mags for both of my pistols are loaded with hollowpoints which aren't as efective when you're trying to make a head shot. You need penetration, so ball ammo is really the only answer. If you're fortuunate enough to be afforded the use of your rifle, then a 5,56 NATO bullet may drop enough at 200 yards that if you aimed for the head, you'd probably end up hitting the target pretty close to his scrotum. Same general result - you just made a head-shot. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
The VAST majority of terrorists are motivated by two things - politics and religion. Of the religious ones, yes, there are probably terror groups for some religions other than islam, but of those religious terrorists, the vast and overwhelming majority are islamic (and when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists). Islamic terrorists don't like anybody that doesn't adhere to the strictest definition of Islam, including other islamic believers. If you want to stretch the motivational factors involved, islamic terrorists are also politically-motivated. For me personally, it is simply "terrorism" regardless of belief system or motivation. In some ways (and depending on who you ask), most government could even be considered terrorist organizations.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists
1291?
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists
1291?
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Hardly applicable. Since then, they've maintained more of a live-and-let-live philosophy (if you ignore the door-to-door bible thumpers that insist we all need to be a christian in one form or another). Of course, I haven't been bothered by that sort since the infamous meet-em-naked-at-the-door-with-a-shotgun-in-my-hand incident of the early 90's. Word must have gotten around.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
My advice remains the same - arm yourselves.
With an RPG launcher.
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I'm pretty accurate with a rock, but I much prefer a stand-off weapon.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm pretty accurate with a rock, but I much prefer a stand-off weapon.
I think you are forgetting paper, them paper cuts are extremely painful.
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I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
So it's "wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am" is it? :-D
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Most people like that also would find carrying a firearm every day too much of a hassle even if they went out and bought one in the first place. Sheepdogs are largely a self selecting group.
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Good morning! Yes, that's right. It takes a little time to get used to, especially if it's not just a small pistol. Just immagine everybody running around with assault rifles on their shoulders and there are enough dopes who would forget them everywhere like they now do umbrellas. Back in my military time, I used to collect rifles with no apparent owner. The boys never disappointed me. There were always a few frantically looking for the rifle they put down 'for just a moment'.
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
Hmm... Like John, most of my friends and neighbors aren't like that. I think they would give a good account of themselves. Given that my next door neighbor is a combat veteran, our chances are better than a lot of folks.
Software Zen:
delete this;And how many will be out there who indeed are like that? Whould you feel safer knowing them to run around armed? And the more important question: What exactly do you want to accomplish? Do you think the terrorists are going to parade through your city with banners about what they intend to do? In most cases things will be all over before anybody even got the time to figure out what just happened. Yesterday I read about Osama's impressive record of bombings at military bases and ambassies. All those were guarded by armed and trained soldiers. Despite that, most of the incidents succeeded and many people were killed. The terrorist usually blew himself up, so what chances do you see for yourself and some neighbors in the unlikely event that you happen to be at the wrong place at the right time? And then what? Who are you going to shoot at?
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011 -
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone.
I really think the triumphalism over this makes folk much more likely to become targets of retaliatory attacks - it would have been safer to let the news leak slowly. But I guess there may be less votes in that.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw
Yes - because that's obviously what "we" were in Iraq for, nothing to do with controlling oil.
