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Data Piracy, or Legitimatized Hacking ?

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    SimulationofSai wrote:

    ...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.

    Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    wizardzz
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    Felony convictions do currently bar one from legally owning a gun. What good that's doing...

    Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      SimulationofSai wrote:

      ...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.

      Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      Corporal Agarn
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      Should this be in soapbox? Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing. When I grew up if you lost your license to drive you did not drive, now they do not think twice about still driving. :((

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      • C Corporal Agarn

        Should this be in soapbox? Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing. When I grew up if you lost your license to drive you did not drive, now they do not think twice about still driving. :((

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        wizardzz
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        djj55 wrote:

        Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing.

        Huh? I thoughtonly liberals thought this.

        Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of your text, by extracting just every 42nd word:

          It to problem proposing sense local available the to the there way is unobtrusive individual inclusion comprehensiveness in they I'm DOMAIN cost, security until any which there your harmed which after simply glasses. ought individuals

          I think it is about as readable.

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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          Chris Meech
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          LOL. Did you use SQL to do that? :laugh:

          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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          • W wizardzz

            djj55 wrote:

            Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing.

            Huh? I thoughtonly liberals thought this.

            Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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            Corporal Agarn
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            They are doing the teaching. :)

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            • C Corporal Agarn

              They are doing the teaching. :)

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              wizardzz
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              These days you mean, striking?

              Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              • G GAMerritt

                It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo

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                Joan M
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                GAMerritt wrote:

                Comments, anyone?

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Well you could use something like roboform to give bogus registration details to websites automatically...

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                  David1987
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                  Yes but that was never an issue anyway, the problem is that every program can just go ahead and read your HDD/CPU serial and with some extra luck even send that info back to the Mothership. You can try to firewall it, but it's probably doing something with the internet that you want

                  remember this setting in the future"

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of your text, by extracting just every 42nd word:

                    It to problem proposing sense local available the to the there way is unobtrusive individual inclusion comprehensiveness in they I'm DOMAIN cost, security until any which there your harmed which after simply glasses. ought individuals

                    I think it is about as readable.

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                    Vark111
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                    Beautiful

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                    • G GAMerritt

                      It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo

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                      Lost User
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                      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :zzz: Rule 1 of communication - consider the audience.

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                      • G GAMerritt

                        It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        GAMerritt wrote:

                        I think it'd be better to write some software and get the U.S. Supreme Court to put a stamp of approval on the project

                        Well, that's all right then. Apparently the problem your disconnected, paranioa raddled consciousness has dredged up only applies in the good ol' US of A because whatever steaming, stream of consciousness bilge you just spewed up onto the page could only be enforced in the USA, or are you so retarded that you don't realise that US laws aren't always enforceable in other countries. I look forward to seeing the test case in Syria.

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          SimulationofSai wrote:

                          ...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.

                          Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Dirk Higbee
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                          Exactly. And if you get rid of the hookers the johns won't be there, but let's just arrest the johns instead.

                          Don't push the rush.

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            GAMerritt wrote:

                            I think it'd be better to write some software and get the U.S. Supreme Court to put a stamp of approval on the project

                            Well, that's all right then. Apparently the problem your disconnected, paranioa raddled consciousness has dredged up only applies in the good ol' US of A because whatever steaming, stream of consciousness bilge you just spewed up onto the page could only be enforced in the USA, or are you so retarded that you don't realise that US laws aren't always enforceable in other countries. I look forward to seeing the test case in Syria.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                            Lost User
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                            I'll get the trebuchet ready for him.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of your text, by extracting just every 42nd word:

                              It to problem proposing sense local available the to the there way is unobtrusive individual inclusion comprehensiveness in they I'm DOMAIN cost, security until any which there your harmed which after simply glasses. ought individuals

                              I think it is about as readable.

                              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                              Niklas L
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                              Good resumé :thumbsup:

                              home

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                              • W wizardzz

                                djj55 wrote:

                                Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing.

                                Huh? I thoughtonly liberals thought this.

                                Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                Oakman
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                                wizardzz wrote:

                                I thoughtonly liberals thought this.

                                Which is why they want to pass laws banning guns???

                                Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                • O Oakman

                                  wizardzz wrote:

                                  I thoughtonly liberals thought this.

                                  Which is why they want to pass laws banning guns???

                                  Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                  wizardzz
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                                  Which is why they think criminals will follow gun laws.

                                  Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  • C Chris Meech

                                    GAMerritt wrote:

                                    It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries ... blah .... blah ... blah ... blah

                                    Who is the they that you are referring to? Oh, and SQL is no more an answer for a security issue than laws are going to stop people from stealing. :)

                                    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                                    Oakman
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                                    Chris Meech wrote:

                                    Who is the they that you are referring to?

                                    You know, "they." From that infamous group of oppressors "Them, They, and Those People."

                                    Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      GAMerritt wrote:

                                      I think it'd be better to write some software and get the U.S. Supreme Court to put a stamp of approval on the project

                                      Well, that's all right then. Apparently the problem your disconnected, paranioa raddled consciousness has dredged up only applies in the good ol' US of A because whatever steaming, stream of consciousness bilge you just spewed up onto the page could only be enforced in the USA, or are you so retarded that you don't realise that US laws aren't always enforceable in other countries. I look forward to seeing the test case in Syria.

                                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                      Oakman
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                                      You read that far?

                                      Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Chris Meech wrote:

                                        Who is the they that you are referring to?

                                        You know, "they." From that infamous group of oppressors "Them, They, and Those People."

                                        Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                        Chris Meech
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                                        Thanks for clearing that up for me. I feel so enlightended now. :-D

                                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                                        • O Oakman

                                          You read that far?

                                          Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          I'm a speed reader. It wasn't that hard.

                                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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