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Looks like it's time to brush my C++ skills off

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  • H Hans Dietrich

    Yes, this tallies with the rumor that I heard: the next VS IDE will be based on emacs. :laugh:

    Best wishes, Hans


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    Vark111
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    I also hear* they'll be returning to the beauty of Hungarian notation. * - I may not have actually heard this.

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Excellent. I like emacs. Better still, let it be a command line based editor and call it vi.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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      Steve Mayfield
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      I was partial to DECs teco editor - especially the macro language implementation

      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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      • V Vark111

        I also hear* they'll be returning to the beauty of Hungarian notation. * - I may not have actually heard this.

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        Hans Dietrich
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        Vark111 wrote:

        the beauty of Hungarian notation

        No, dude, it's camels all the way.

        Best wishes, Hans


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        • P Pete OHanlon

          The rumour mill (aka the usually very reliable Mary=Jo Foley) has it that C++ is making a big comeback in Windows 8[^]. It's being renamed to WinC++. What will be interesting to see is how this compares with their rumoured strategy of offering a CLR runtime closer to the metal.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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          Hans Dietrich
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          From the vague and nebulous statements made in that blog (sort of like a Microsoft marketing blurb in that), one could surmise that there will be a unified IDE in the future, which only supported XAML; a post-processing phase would then spit out (up?) the language of your choosing: C#, C++, PHP, etc. The IDE itself would be written in a highly abstract version of XAML called, of course, Turbo XAML.

          Best wishes, Hans


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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            In WinC++ you won't be allowed to use any of the C++ keywords. You will be forced to use macro's defined in the Window header file instead. However, most of the functions will have signatures that are a mix of conventions.

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            In WinC++ you won't be allowed to use any of the C++ keywords. You will be forced to use macro's defined in the Window header file instead. However, most of the functions will have signatures that are a mix of conventions.

            Really? :omg:


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              Excellent. I like emacs. Better still, let it be a command line based editor and call it vi.

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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              LloydA111
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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              vi

              X| I prefer Nano ;P


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              • R realJSOP

                I think it's pretty clever for Microsoft to omit the neccessity for the successful applicant to be able to use the debugging facilities effectively. This means that anything new in the form of tools will be equally as cripple d as they are now with stupid little falws that should never have gotten past Q/A...

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Microsoft ... Q/A

                Need I say more? :doh:

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  In WinC++ you won't be allowed to use any of the C++ keywords. You will be forced to use macro's defined in the Window header file instead. However, most of the functions will have signatures that are a mix of conventions.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                  Albert Holguin
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                  I hope you're not serious! :omg:

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    The rumour mill (aka the usually very reliable Mary=Jo Foley) has it that C++ is making a big comeback in Windows 8[^]. It's being renamed to WinC++. What will be interesting to see is how this compares with their rumoured strategy of offering a CLR runtime closer to the metal.

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    OFFS. When the .Net "brand" was unveiled developers rolled their eyes. It was sheer Marketing bluster because Microsoft saw the internet getting away from them. Now that they've hitched their Development tools to the "Net" and the "Net" and "Cloud" have become viable alternatives to a Windows desktop, and now that people have begun to embrace the idea of alternative operating systems....what to MS do.. Let's stick "WIN" back into the name of our development tools to try and convince developers that the OS actually matters. I'm just glad they haven't renamed it Cloud++ I'm sill concerned 2012 might be the last release of Visual Studio before Visual Cloud, and .Net 5.0 may give way to .Cloud 1.0 I recently abandoned Windows for home use and having gone Mac I won't be going back, and I was one of those skeptics who dismissed Mac for a long time. I now only boot into Windows using VMWare if I need to run Visual Studio. If I ever replace that tool for my development needs then Windows would be gone in a heartbeat. -Rd

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                    • R Richard A Dalton

                      OFFS. When the .Net "brand" was unveiled developers rolled their eyes. It was sheer Marketing bluster because Microsoft saw the internet getting away from them. Now that they've hitched their Development tools to the "Net" and the "Net" and "Cloud" have become viable alternatives to a Windows desktop, and now that people have begun to embrace the idea of alternative operating systems....what to MS do.. Let's stick "WIN" back into the name of our development tools to try and convince developers that the OS actually matters. I'm just glad they haven't renamed it Cloud++ I'm sill concerned 2012 might be the last release of Visual Studio before Visual Cloud, and .Net 5.0 may give way to .Cloud 1.0 I recently abandoned Windows for home use and having gone Mac I won't be going back, and I was one of those skeptics who dismissed Mac for a long time. I now only boot into Windows using VMWare if I need to run Visual Studio. If I ever replace that tool for my development needs then Windows would be gone in a heartbeat. -Rd

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                      rwinte
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                      What kind of development are you going on your Mac? Surely not Cocoa and Objective C :omg:

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                      • R rwinte

                        What kind of development are you going on your Mac? Surely not Cocoa and Objective C :omg:

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                        Richard A Dalton
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                        Nope, like I said C# in Win7 under VM Ware. But VS2010 is literally the only reason I still use Windows at all. Perhaps if I liked Java I might just use ecclipse on the Mac, I haven't tried that. I'm happy with my lot c# and win7 for work, work, mac for everything else. -Richard

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          The rumour mill (aka the usually very reliable Mary=Jo Foley) has it that C++ is making a big comeback in Windows 8[^]. It's being renamed to WinC++. What will be interesting to see is how this compares with their rumoured strategy of offering a CLR runtime closer to the metal.

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                          NormDroid
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                          Time to Dig my Mike Blaszczak MFC back up!

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