future of dot net
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Yes, given how few people are using .NET, and how unsuccessful the platform as been in terms of people taking it up, a lack of .NET code in the core of Windows 8 obviously spells the death of the platform and unemployment for the handful of developers who made the mistake of ever using it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The sarcasm icon wouldve been very usefull here. ;)
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly 'This space for rent' Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife
I considered adding </sarcasm> but decided those who can't spot it, deserve what they get :P
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Specifically, the new Windows 8 interface is a more tile-based interface that relies heavily upon HTML5 and JavaScript. Here's how Julie Larson-Green, Corporate Vice President, Windows Experience described it:
If you are a Windows developer, I'll bet you did: there was little to no mention of .NET technology in the Windows 8 hoopla, and quite a few Windows developers are more than a little angry about the whole thing.
http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/p/230502/562113.aspx[^] http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-mono[^] the highly debated, future of dot net. :suss:
"Incorrectly attributing quotes to revered historical figures is the work of fools and gerrymanderers; but hey, that's the internet for you." -- Thomas Jefferson
Well - he mentioned it would still run your traditional apps. And all you really got to see was the pretty gui - which is obviously aimed at the tablet market - and reminds me of the previous attempt at allowing the screen to be web-based - that nobody used... HTML5 will be great for desktop Apps for MS - suddenly loads of developers can put apps on the PC without being MS centric. As SL runs in the browser it will presumably run on the Weight desktop if you want to use SL lets face it - if the marketing guys came out with "Windows 8 - just look at it - still runs all the same old stuff we've been doing for years" it's not going to do much for their share price It's glossy pretty colours people want to see - that's why the video showed videos and photos , with a brief glimpse of Excel and Word
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Specifically, the new Windows 8 interface is a more tile-based interface that relies heavily upon HTML5 and JavaScript. Here's how Julie Larson-Green, Corporate Vice President, Windows Experience described it:
If you are a Windows developer, I'll bet you did: there was little to no mention of .NET technology in the Windows 8 hoopla, and quite a few Windows developers are more than a little angry about the whole thing.
http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/p/230502/562113.aspx[^] http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-mono[^] the highly debated, future of dot net. :suss:
"Incorrectly attributing quotes to revered historical figures is the work of fools and gerrymanderers; but hey, that's the internet for you." -- Thomas Jefferson
I feel so old. We went through this whole thing with MFC. Then C++. Then Windows Forms. Then VB6. Then everything else that came after it. All those technologies are alive and well waaaaay after their use-by date. The inertia in businesses to change, and the sheer size of the installed base of these, and all the other technologies, means they won't be dead in a hurry. [Edit: I just need to rant a little more. Just because Microsoft doesn't mention .NET doesn't mean it's dead. They didn't mention C++ either, or MVC, or WCF, or Visual Studio. Nor did they mention installers, file compression or hedgehogs. Why does that mean they'll be nuked? And - and this is the big question - why are we getting hot and bothered by a Linux / mono guy spreading FUD??.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I feel so old. We went through this whole thing with MFC. Then C++. Then Windows Forms. Then VB6. Then everything else that came after it. All those technologies are alive and well waaaaay after their use-by date. The inertia in businesses to change, and the sheer size of the installed base of these, and all the other technologies, means they won't be dead in a hurry. [Edit: I just need to rant a little more. Just because Microsoft doesn't mention .NET doesn't mean it's dead. They didn't mention C++ either, or MVC, or WCF, or Visual Studio. Nor did they mention installers, file compression or hedgehogs. Why does that mean they'll be nuked? And - and this is the big question - why are we getting hot and bothered by a Linux / mono guy spreading FUD??.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I feel so old.
We went through this whole thing with MFC.Cleaning out my room on the weekend I found my copy of MFC Internals[^] among other old programming books.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I feel so old.
We went through this whole thing with MFC.Cleaning out my room on the weekend I found my copy of MFC Internals[^] among other old programming books.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Frame it. That book was my bible. It is holy.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Frame it. That book was my bible. It is holy.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Agreed - that was probably the most useful MFC book I ever bought, by a long shot.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I feel so old. We went through this whole thing with MFC. Then C++. Then Windows Forms. Then VB6. Then everything else that came after it. All those technologies are alive and well waaaaay after their use-by date. The inertia in businesses to change, and the sheer size of the installed base of these, and all the other technologies, means they won't be dead in a hurry. [Edit: I just need to rant a little more. Just because Microsoft doesn't mention .NET doesn't mean it's dead. They didn't mention C++ either, or MVC, or WCF, or Visual Studio. Nor did they mention installers, file compression or hedgehogs. Why does that mean they'll be nuked? And - and this is the big question - why are we getting hot and bothered by a Linux / mono guy spreading FUD??.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
or hedgehogs
or hamsters
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Yes, given how few people are using .NET, and how unsuccessful the platform as been in terms of people taking it up, a lack of .NET code in the core of Windows 8 obviously spells the death of the platform and unemployment for the handful of developers who made the mistake of ever using it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
rewind 10 years and replace ".Net" with "MFC". nothing lasts forever, except 4:00 meetings.
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Frame it. That book was my bible. It is holy.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Frame it.
That book was my bible. It is holy.It's covered in contact and is in pristine condition I reckon, don't even think I have any marks on the pages, let alone the cover.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Agreed - that was probably the most useful MFC book I ever bought, by a long shot.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Agreed - that was probably the most useful MFC book I ever bought, by a long shot.
Also found that Debugging book you recommended years ago, though I can't think of the name to find a link, it to is pristine like the MFC Internals book.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Specifically, the new Windows 8 interface is a more tile-based interface that relies heavily upon HTML5 and JavaScript. Here's how Julie Larson-Green, Corporate Vice President, Windows Experience described it:
If you are a Windows developer, I'll bet you did: there was little to no mention of .NET technology in the Windows 8 hoopla, and quite a few Windows developers are more than a little angry about the whole thing.
http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/p/230502/562113.aspx[^] http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-mono[^] the highly debated, future of dot net. :suss:
"Incorrectly attributing quotes to revered historical figures is the work of fools and gerrymanderers; but hey, that's the internet for you." -- Thomas Jefferson
jgasm wrote:
fparting-linux-and-mono
;P
Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment. Barry LePatner
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I feel so old. We went through this whole thing with MFC. Then C++. Then Windows Forms. Then VB6. Then everything else that came after it. All those technologies are alive and well waaaaay after their use-by date. The inertia in businesses to change, and the sheer size of the installed base of these, and all the other technologies, means they won't be dead in a hurry. [Edit: I just need to rant a little more. Just because Microsoft doesn't mention .NET doesn't mean it's dead. They didn't mention C++ either, or MVC, or WCF, or Visual Studio. Nor did they mention installers, file compression or hedgehogs. Why does that mean they'll be nuked? And - and this is the big question - why are we getting hot and bothered by a Linux / mono guy spreading FUD??.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
hedgehogs.
Egads! I'm having enough trouble learning C# and SQL Server. Now I've got to learn to make hedgehogs work, too? Does MS Press have a book for that? Oh well, it will probably be easier than getting my front office staff to work. :sigh:
Will Rogers never met me.
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Specifically, the new Windows 8 interface is a more tile-based interface that relies heavily upon HTML5 and JavaScript. Here's how Julie Larson-Green, Corporate Vice President, Windows Experience described it:
If you are a Windows developer, I'll bet you did: there was little to no mention of .NET technology in the Windows 8 hoopla, and quite a few Windows developers are more than a little angry about the whole thing.
http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/p/230502/562113.aspx[^] http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-mono[^] the highly debated, future of dot net. :suss:
"Incorrectly attributing quotes to revered historical figures is the work of fools and gerrymanderers; but hey, that's the internet for you." -- Thomas Jefferson
To be honest, this is complete bollocks. Unadulterated, uninformed crap. .NET is not being dropped. .NET is not being replaced. .NET is likely to form a more integral part of the OS based on a project that's nearing completion called Redhawk. Let me address another thing here which some people just don't seem to understand. The Metro UI is not the only interface you can use for Windows 8. The Aero interface is still going to be available but, as it doesn't work that well for tablets and other none-mouse oriented devices, Metro will be available to use - which is suited to touch devices. I talk about this here[^].
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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It's all relative as the Mayans, and others predicted that Microsoft would be destroyed on Dec. 21 2012 and a new order would take it's place.
"Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forward." Kierkegaard, Søren
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rewind 10 years and replace ".Net" with "MFC". nothing lasts forever, except 4:00 meetings.
rewind another 10 years, an there were plentyful programming languages on a variety of operating systems, bring back the good 'old' days.
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To be honest, this is complete bollocks. Unadulterated, uninformed crap. .NET is not being dropped. .NET is not being replaced. .NET is likely to form a more integral part of the OS based on a project that's nearing completion called Redhawk. Let me address another thing here which some people just don't seem to understand. The Metro UI is not the only interface you can use for Windows 8. The Aero interface is still going to be available but, as it doesn't work that well for tablets and other none-mouse oriented devices, Metro will be available to use - which is suited to touch devices. I talk about this here[^].
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Plus you could convert your WPF/Winform apps to 'look' like metro styled apps.
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Don't worry 'bout me, I'm fine and don't even care about the subject you posted, I was concerned 'bout you. After all, if we can't use tags correctly on a website where we communicate between ourselves how we suppose to make complex systems?
Mladen Jankovic wrote:
how we suppose to make complex systems?
Hire Consultant CP Hamsters :thumbsup: :rolleyes:
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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Chris Maunder wrote:
hedgehogs.
Egads! I'm having enough trouble learning C# and SQL Server. Now I've got to learn to make hedgehogs work, too? Does MS Press have a book for that? Oh well, it will probably be easier than getting my front office staff to work. :sigh:
Will Rogers never met me.
We'll start a section when we get enough interest. Relax - we'll have you covered.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Yes, given how few people are using .NET, and how unsuccessful the platform as been in terms of people taking it up, a lack of .NET code in the core of Windows 8 obviously spells the death of the platform and unemployment for the handful of developers who made the mistake of ever using it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
