Anyone owns Bose speakers here?
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Well I was considering to buy it from Amazon, so the home demo may not work out. There is a Bose showroom in my town but I am not sure they do home demos, and even if they did that I bet they'd be pissed off if I tell them that I will eventually buy it off Amazon.
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Thats why you say you are really interested in the product, and just want to make sure before parting with the cash. And then at the end of the demo, just say your not quite sure, something doesn't sound quite right and leave it at that! (you never know they might say to try it for a couple of days yourself, and then after that say no, still not convinced its worth the price, and they might even knock some money off and make you and offer. Just don't tell them anything else!
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I've an Altec Lansing MX5021[^], and it's a BLAST.
But those are PC speakers. Not Home Theatre speakers.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
A colleague has a Bose 2.1 system, and he agrees that mine is more value for money (I paid INR 7K, and he got his for INR 14K) and the difference in sound clarity, if any, is negligible.
INR 14K is about $310. I don't know of any current Bose Home Theatre system in that price range so he probably got PC speakers too. And yeah Bose will never have value for money.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
But those are PC speakers. Not Home Theatre speakers.
The unit is THX certified, and I'm using it in my hall (where I used to keep a 5.1 earlier), and I actually get deeper bass and better mid notes with the current system! Surely enough, it may not compete with a bose home theater unit though. And yes, the friend's speakers are PC speakers too. But honestly, I think that the people who are complaining about the build quality of the "interior" of Bose are mistaken. I think I wouldn't care if it was made of rubberbands and superglue. I'd worry about the sound quality, and the reliability of the product, both which I think bose scores well on. If you don't mind spending the extra money, and if you have enough space in the hall for setting up a powerful system, I'd recommend that you go for the bose unit.
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Thats why you say you are really interested in the product, and just want to make sure before parting with the cash. And then at the end of the demo, just say your not quite sure, something doesn't sound quite right and leave it at that! (you never know they might say to try it for a couple of days yourself, and then after that say no, still not convinced its worth the price, and they might even knock some money off and make you and offer. Just don't tell them anything else!
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Yeah, that's what I wish I could do. Just that my personality sucks when it comes to that sort of thing. Which also explains why I hate any form of price negotiation - it's just something that makes me feel very awkward :sigh:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
But those are PC speakers. Not Home Theatre speakers.
The unit is THX certified, and I'm using it in my hall (where I used to keep a 5.1 earlier), and I actually get deeper bass and better mid notes with the current system! Surely enough, it may not compete with a bose home theater unit though. And yes, the friend's speakers are PC speakers too. But honestly, I think that the people who are complaining about the build quality of the "interior" of Bose are mistaken. I think I wouldn't care if it was made of rubberbands and superglue. I'd worry about the sound quality, and the reliability of the product, both which I think bose scores well on. If you don't mind spending the extra money, and if you have enough space in the hall for setting up a powerful system, I'd recommend that you go for the bose unit.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
If you don't mind spending the extra money, and if you have enough space in the hall for setting up a powerful system, I'd recommend that you go for the bose unit.
Yeah the price on this is okay, it's something I've budgeted for. I just want to make sure it's worth it. 600 bucks is not a small amount of money (for me). Eventually I will also get a 5.1 system (for a TV in a different room) but this particular room needs a 2.1 because of the way we've furnished it and how the TV has been placed. And in the past I've always found that the price worries you only until you pay for the thing. Once you get it, you forget what you paid. And once the thing you buy satisifes you, the price is long forgotten. So I've learned to never sacrifice quality just to save a few bucks here or there. I'd rather not buy something than buy something and then not be happy about it.
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
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Unless, you are every much into music and sound I do not recommend going for Bose. They are not the best value for money if you are not a big music fan. But obviously there are other things like bragging rights which come with Bose :). Reminds me of this article:- Office dude wonders who’s the one left out who hasn’t seen his iPhone[^]
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
If you don't mind spending the extra money, and if you have enough space in the hall for setting up a powerful system, I'd recommend that you go for the bose unit.
Yeah the price on this is okay, it's something I've budgeted for. I just want to make sure it's worth it. 600 bucks is not a small amount of money (for me). Eventually I will also get a 5.1 system (for a TV in a different room) but this particular room needs a 2.1 because of the way we've furnished it and how the TV has been placed. And in the past I've always found that the price worries you only until you pay for the thing. Once you get it, you forget what you paid. And once the thing you buy satisifes you, the price is long forgotten. So I've learned to never sacrifice quality just to save a few bucks here or there. I'd rather not buy something than buy something and then not be happy about it.
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Take a look at the MX6021 as well[^]! The reviews are good, but however, it doesn't seem to be THX certified. I think I might get one of those for my sister's home. It may be worth seeking a demo of it though. I personally can vouch for the performance Altec Lansing's MX series of speakers. [Add] Forget it - it looks like the 5021 is a better model with the THX certification, other features, and its hefty price tag in comparison (the MSRP is USD 150 for the 6021, which is lesser than 5021's price) [/Add]
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Cut a bose speaker in half and marvel at the "high quality" of the construction.
How come so many audiophiles swear by Bose then? Surely not all of them would be blinded by mere marketing!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
How come so many audiophiles swear by Bose then?
BusterBoy (bet you haven't heard that in a while!), be careful using "audiophile" and "Bose" in the same sentence. :) IMHO, Bose caters to the consumer high-end market. If you're really looking for audiophile quality components, give Mordaunt-Short, Thiel (the CS1.6 is gorgeous), Totem, and Magnepan a listen at your friendly high-end audio store, then return to the Bose and judge for yourself. /ravi
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
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Usually, when you are buying expensive equipment you get: - Better design (aestethics), - More personalized manufacturing (small series). - High quality finishings (wood, nice looking materials). ... But, when it's time for the electronics, here everyone can get a good result, electronics are cheap and everyone get the components from the same source... It's like TFT tv's: there are 5 or 6 manufacturers of TFT film in the world and all the brands out there buy to them, the difference is that some brands buy quality 10 (a scale that is measured using the guarantee that there are no dead pixels in x*y space) others get quality 9... Then there is a difference in the electronics and the final price due to the materials and built in capabilities... i.e. some B&O loudspeakers adjust themselves to sound better emitting a specific sound and hearing that sound to come back thanks to some microphones that are built in the loudspeaker... After all those things have been said, I've not owned bose systems, but it is clear that this brand is a reference in the market. My this is not useful for me answer... :thumbsup:
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Have you seen the prices they will pay for a mains lead? :wtf: I just want a list of names and addresses - I have a bridge they may be interested in! On a serious note: if you are thinking of spending serious dosh on speakers, get the shop (or whatever) to do you a home demo: the shape and furnishings in the room have a big effect on acoustics, and this varies from speaker to speaker. You need to listen to then as they will be in your home.
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
Regards, Nish
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1kW for $250? OK unless you want to listen to music or watch films. My setup was $1,200 for 5.1 speakers and another $700 for the AV receiver - I plan to upgrade in a couple of years to improve the definition sound the sound, maybe $3,000 in total. Bose are OK.
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Usually, when you are buying expensive equipment you get: - Better design (aestethics), - More personalized manufacturing (small series). - High quality finishings (wood, nice looking materials). ... But, when it's time for the electronics, here everyone can get a good result, electronics are cheap and everyone get the components from the same source... It's like TFT tv's: there are 5 or 6 manufacturers of TFT film in the world and all the brands out there buy to them, the difference is that some brands buy quality 10 (a scale that is measured using the guarantee that there are no dead pixels in x*y space) others get quality 9... Then there is a difference in the electronics and the final price due to the materials and built in capabilities... i.e. some B&O loudspeakers adjust themselves to sound better emitting a specific sound and hearing that sound to come back thanks to some microphones that are built in the loudspeaker... After all those things have been said, I've not owned bose systems, but it is clear that this brand is a reference in the market. My this is not useful for me answer... :thumbsup:
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Joan Murt wrote:
here everyone can get a good result
No. Let me say that again - no. My Oknyo is a decent entry price AV receiver, probably looking to spend about $1,200 on it's replacement later on (maybe a Pioneer depending on the market) and Bose is basic.
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Well I was considering to buy it from Amazon, so the home demo may not work out. There is a Bose showroom in my town but I am not sure they do home demos, and even if they did that I bet they'd be pissed off if I tell them that I will eventually buy it off Amazon.
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DaveAuld wrote:
What, like the Apple Fanboys!
:)
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OriginalGriff wrote:
I have a bridge they may be interested in
So what sort of audio does your bridge do?
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5.1 if you have a amp big enough to drive it (it will have to start at eleven)
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still trying to sell off that same old bridge? :omg:
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
Regards, Nish
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Nish, There are better alternatives to Bose (both in terms of money and in terms of quality). I do not know what your budget and space requirements are. But you can get decent KEF, Mirage or Paradigm for the same price as the comparable Bose speakers. There are other speakers like Definitive Technologies, Polk etc at the same price range. If you go a little bit higher end you can get B&W and higher end models of KEF etc. Personally I feel Bose is more of a marketing than the actual quality (they are decent, but not great, better choice available) Try www.accessories4less and there was a sale for Kef 3005 series (5.1) for around $1000. Since you are looking for 2.1, one of the better sub is SVS (www.svsound.com). They too have some speaker packages. Other subs like HSU research (www.hsuresearch.com) has good subs. What type of receiver you have? Personally I feel THX certification is more of a marketing. Some of decent mid to high end receivers from Denon, Marantz, Pioneer Elite and Yamaha do not have THX certification, but that does not mean that they are not great :-D :-D Try the following site for all your following Audio Video questions (you may know it already) www.avsforum.com -Madhu
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
Regards, Nish
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I was looking at some 2.1 home speaker systems and have finally settled on a Bose CineMate Series II (599.99 @ Amazon). Compare this to the Sony 5.1 system which is 1000W for only about 249.99. So what makes the Bose so expensive? Remember these are not even comparables, the equivalent 5.1 Bose speaker systems starts at 2,200+. People who have Bose systems, do you regret spending extra for them? Or would you buy them again?
Regards, Nish
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We have a Bose Lifestyle system - which we won - so it was great value for money! Quality - yep, it is honestly the best sounding system I have owned - I'm not an audiphile, though, so it's purely a personal opinion. Would I spend the money - no, it's not THAT much better - and as someone else remarked, the remote (ours is an lcd touchscreen RF remote) isn't compatib;le with anything else other than Bose, which is a pain.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
How come so many audiophiles swear by Bose then?
BusterBoy (bet you haven't heard that in a while!), be careful using "audiophile" and "Bose" in the same sentence. :) IMHO, Bose caters to the consumer high-end market. If you're really looking for audiophile quality components, give Mordaunt-Short, Thiel (the CS1.6 is gorgeous), Totem, and Magnepan a listen at your friendly high-end audio store, then return to the Bose and judge for yourself. /ravi
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Thanks Ravi. Checked those brand names out and found that they were way above my price range. Eventually I went for the Bose 2.1. Considering I moved up from TV speakers, this is a very good move up for me.
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Nish, There are better alternatives to Bose (both in terms of money and in terms of quality). I do not know what your budget and space requirements are. But you can get decent KEF, Mirage or Paradigm for the same price as the comparable Bose speakers. There are other speakers like Definitive Technologies, Polk etc at the same price range. If you go a little bit higher end you can get B&W and higher end models of KEF etc. Personally I feel Bose is more of a marketing than the actual quality (they are decent, but not great, better choice available) Try www.accessories4less and there was a sale for Kef 3005 series (5.1) for around $1000. Since you are looking for 2.1, one of the better sub is SVS (www.svsound.com). They too have some speaker packages. Other subs like HSU research (www.hsuresearch.com) has good subs. What type of receiver you have? Personally I feel THX certification is more of a marketing. Some of decent mid to high end receivers from Denon, Marantz, Pioneer Elite and Yamaha do not have THX certification, but that does not mean that they are not great :-D :-D Try the following site for all your following Audio Video questions (you may know it already) www.avsforum.com -Madhu
Thanks Madhu. I did go and check out each of those brands out. I think they are a little too much for me, price wise and technically. Seems I need to individually pick speakers, separately buy a receiver, etc. I don't have a receiver/amp currently anyway. I was on TV speakers for years, so I went ahead with the Bose 2.1 speakers. I know it's probably not pro-quality but to me they were a major step up. In the long run, this TV will become my secondary TV as I have plans for a better TV/speaker system that will end up as my primary TV/home theatre system. At that point I reckon I will increase my budget and go for a more pro-quality speaker system. Thanks once again.
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