Time for Chrome to go

[gggustafson]

I think that for our readers' sake, we should include the following paragraphs in our discussion.

W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to the browser that comes preinstalled with their computer, and do not seek out other browser alternatives.

These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is a more popular browser.

Anyway, our data, collected from W3Schools' log-files, over many years, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.

When I looked for statistics, I saw these paragraphs and chose to use another source. I personally do not believe that, in the general population, FF or Chrome have greater usage than IE. Maybe we need a better statistics source.

[musefan]

I think you have lost the point I was making. Firstly, it is not easier to use the same high quality English because it means you have to go slower and/or re-read your posts. My point isn't write completely different words and it is not a problem. I was simply talking about words that sound the same. Readers know what is intended when I use there, their or they're. They understand because they apply the context on the rest of the sentence, just the same as would be applied to determine which version to use. All my sounds like mistakes are automatic, therefore I do not forget how to use them properly because I don'y realise I am making the mistakes. I don't need to

If my jokes make me laugh, then I have already succeeded with 100% of my target audience

[musefan]

Yes, thanks for that. Thou there is a difference between actually caring, and simple using it as an excuse to defend myself from other peoples remarks

If my jokes make me laugh, then I have already succeeded with 100% of my target audience

[musefan]

Like I said, I know you all care about your grammar but the cause of the tension in this regard is simple people putting to much importance on correct spelling and grammar. If Chrome shows a red squiggle then I will correct it, otherwise I probably won't notice. I think if anything is a cause of hostility then it is the misunderstanding of the mood of a person who is writing something. For example, you could easily take this message as a hostile attack on yourself, but it is simply me just debating my point. Opinions are only right to those who agree with them, and not everyone will agree on somebody's opinion

If my jokes make me laugh, then I have already succeeded with 100% of my target audience

[Mark_Wallace]

musefan wrote:

I think if anything is a cause of hostility then it is the misunderstanding of the mood of a person who is writing something.

So you would have us believe that someone will write well enough for us to understand what "mood" they're writing in, even though they can't even make the effort to spell half their words correctly, or follow basic rules of grammar? Getting meaning, intent, and mood right is a damned sight harder than spelling and grammar, and requires a lot more effort.

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[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

Of late my Chrome is not able to display the Unicode properly. FF and system applications work fine. Weird.

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[Bonesnap]

What sort of things are you doing that mess up in Chrome? I've never, ever had a problem with pages rendering in Chrome, whether it was a project at work or a project at home. Every once in a while I hear someone complain about pages rendering in Chrome but I have yet to come across a single problem. :confused:

[S Kasabov]

Chrome will go as mach as IE does. I do not use Chrome but a Dragon, BTW.

[dazfuller]

Why? Pages I develop work fine in Chrome/FireFox/Opera, the one that causes me nightmares almost every day of my working life is IE because it resolutely objects to being standards compliant, it's developer tools are lacking when compared to Chrome Developer Tools and Firebug (sorry, I've not tried DragonFly) and it's just a massive pain in the posterior. I mean any browser which needs 4 different rendering modes just needs dragging out into the street and shooting (http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ie8-mode.png[^]) Standards exist for a reason, they might not always be the popular choice but at least they work if you stick to them.

[Rob Grainger]

(Pedantry warning) You're mixing terms here. A lexical analyser does the lexical level: so the spell checker already does that. A parser (grammar analyser) checks that the usage is valid. We need grammatical analysis that is able to check for "close" lexemes (words).

[Rob Grainger]

Its odd then that IE is the browser that consistently scores lower on standards compliance. I know there's a lot of MS developers here, but to try and pretend that because something doesn't render like IE it is broken is shocking. IE is the single browser that breaks web compatibility more than all others, although improving from IE9 onwards.

[giuchici]

Very good! However, it took a while until somebody noticed. I personally just concluded what was meant from context.

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[Lost User]

How can Chrome be winning a race that doesn't have a finish line? The standards aren't set to even be completed until 2020. That is really all one needs to know about how goofy web development has become.

[gggustafson]

I have just completed an Article in which I dearly wanted to dynamically create a stylesheet in the Javascript function that initializes the web page. I followed the following track:

function create_stylesheet ( )
  {
  var created = false;
  var head = document.getElementsByTagName ( 'head' ) [ 0 ];
  
  if ( head )
    {
    var style = document.createElement ( 'style' );
    
    if ( style )
      {
      var CSS_string = new String ( );

      CSS_string =
        ".green_link," +
        ".revised_green_link" +
          "{" +
          "}" +
        ".abbreviation_alone" +
          "{" +
          "display:none;" +
          "}" +
        ".abbreviation_definition" +
          "{" +
          "display:inline;" +
          "}" + ...

      style.type = "text/css";
      style.rel = "stylesheet";
      
      if ( style.styleSheet )             // IE
        { 
        style.styleSheet.cssText = CSS_string;
        }
      else                                // W3C
        { 
        var CSS_text = document.createTextNode ( CSS_string );
        style.appendChild ( CSS_text );
        }

      head.appendChild ( style );
      created = true;
      }
    }
  
  return ( created );
  }

The two rules, abbreviation_alone and abbreviation_definition were then to be retrieved from the page stylesheets and pointed to by two Javascript global variables. Although Firefox, IE, Opera, and Safari all performed as desired, Chrome did not. I had to revert to an external CSS file. The only reason for the dynamic stylesheet was to avoid having two files (.js and .css) included in the project. Please see DOM Style Sheets for further details. The Security in Depth: Local Web Pages describes a "feature" that has effectively crippled users of earlier Chrome versions. As a result, folks are suggesting a move away from Chrome. HTH Gus

[alexdresko]

And that's why I've never even installed Chrome.

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[beeseearr]

I think you're missing his point. You would not need to go slower and re-read your posts if you used the same high-quality English everywhere. It is because you have the two versions of typing that it requires extra effort on your part to type correctly the first time through. (Granted, mistakes will still be made, but the frequency should be a lot lower.)

[austin hamman]

its rare for me to have something which works on FF but not Chrome, but very common to have something which works in firefox and chrome but not IE. usually i find i develop something in FF (mostly because of firebug which is better than ie and chrome's built in debuggers) then i work on making it work in chrome (usually works right out of the box, sometimes i need a few minor tweaks because i used FF specific things) then IE (which is a nightmare that adds another month to any development project)

[Reelix]

http://html5test.com/[^] According to this site, the latest Dev build of Chrome is more compliant than any other offical / dev build of any other browser ;P

-= Reelix =-

[Narud Shiro]

Why we have to be worried about the browser when there are amazings 3rd part components fully cross browser compatible? Since I use one of them, I only have to think about which browser would runs faster the apps, instead of think about an app could run in different browsers. :-D