Netflix causes Internet to reboot
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I think probably the biggest thing is that, like so many web oriented businesses, they were really underpriced to begin with. I think for what I get, 20 bucks a month is a good deal, and I would have signed up for it had that been the price in the beginning. So, like you said, cost / benefit, but with perception playing a large role in the process. As much of a PR screwup on their part as anything else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
True, but what's done is done. Now people EXPECT to pay less than $10 a month for streaming... If not with Netflix, then with Amazon or Hulu.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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True, but what's done is done. Now people EXPECT to pay less than $10 a month for streaming... If not with Netflix, then with Amazon or Hulu.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Hulu's the one I don't get. I'm okay with advertising supported media. I grew up with three TV stations and that's how it worked. I got TV for free in exchange for commercials. However, when cable came out, the idea was you could pay a monthly fee to watch stuff without commercials. With Hulu, if you sign up for a paid plan, you still get commercials. If I get commercials, I expect free.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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To read all the hype, anger and general commotion the past few days over Netflix's price increase you'd think they were pricing themselves out of the market or otherwise forcing financial hardships on the faithful. Many of the headlines and blog posts all scream the same thing. Netflix raises prices by 60%! Deified bovine. You'd think the net was going to explode from all the noise. I cut the cable last year, going from a $120 all you can eat plan to a Netflix subscription. Mind you, I don't have the cheapest plan. I pay extra to have 2 DVDs out at a time since some stuff you can't stream (a problem I lay at the feet of the morons in the entertainment industry who still haven't figured out this newfangled Internet thing, not Netflix's fault). Sure enough, I got an email this week from Netflix announcing price increases for my plan effective September 1st. My monthly bill is increasing from $15 to $20. Yep. That's what the mass hysteria is about. 5 bucks. Roughly a gallon of gas. I don't understand humanity, but they sure are fun to watch as they run around tearing their collective hair out over these earth shaking catastrophes. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
It's not about the money, I can afford the extra $6, it's about the percentage jump. I'm getting the same exact service I was getting before, only now it costs 60% more. I understand prices go up, but they don't go up that sharply very frequently. It's not like I'm paying my rent and then I get a notice that my rent is going up 60% in 2 months. I will be exploring other options, but will likely end up staying with Netflix through this price increase, but I will not be sticking around if there is another large jump in price with the next few years.
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It's not about the money, I can afford the extra $6, it's about the percentage jump. I'm getting the same exact service I was getting before, only now it costs 60% more. I understand prices go up, but they don't go up that sharply very frequently. It's not like I'm paying my rent and then I get a notice that my rent is going up 60% in 2 months. I will be exploring other options, but will likely end up staying with Netflix through this price increase, but I will not be sticking around if there is another large jump in price with the next few years.
I see this more as an adjustment of their overall pricing model rather than a price increase. I don't think it was realistic for them to bundle the DVD and streaming stuff together. Sure, as a consumer I enjoyed it, but if they don't have a sustainable model then they'll ultimately go out of business (Blockbuster comes to mind). And tht means I'd lose a service that I currently enjoy.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Yeah, that per-night clause is what makes it not so good.
Regards, Nish
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We don't have any problem with it. It's actually a better deal than getting DVDs from netflix because you don't have to wait for the mail. You could reasonably rent 14 movies in one week, when at the very most, you could only get eight from netflix (if you managed to watch four movies the say day you got them, and IF the post office doesn't somehow trip over itself). Of course, the selection isn't nearly as encompassing, but at least they have the newest stuff that comes out.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
We don't have any problem with it. It's actually a better deal than getting DVDs from netflix because you don't have to wait for the mail. You could reasonably rent 14 movies in one week, when at the very most, you could only get eight from netflix (if you managed to watch four movies the say day you got them, and IF the post office doesn't somehow trip over itself). Of course, the selection isn't nearly as encompassing, but at least they have the newest stuff that comes out.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Well I have their regular unlimited DVD plan, so I can watch one movie every 3 USPS working days, so 8-9 a month is my maximum, and that assumes I watch the DVD the day I get it and put it back the next morning.
Regards, Nish
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Well I have their regular unlimited DVD plan, so I can watch one movie every 3 USPS working days, so 8-9 a month is my maximum, and that assumes I watch the DVD the day I get it and put it back the next morning.
Regards, Nish
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We currently get three on Tuesday, watch one per night, and send them back on Saturday. They received the watched ones on Monday, and mail out the new ones which arrive the next day. Once I fingered out ththe mail latencies, it became easy to schedule. The only time we miss a new release is after a Monday holiday, or if there are more than three new movies released in a given week.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
If I already waited until the movie was no longer in theaters, I can wait 2 more weeks to rent it. Redbox ends up costing you more anyways. You must race home from work to not get a late fee and by me there are fucking lines to use the device, even to just return a movie. Add on the round-trip time, twice, and the time waiting in line and the gas used to get there, it costs more. It also freezes in the winter (they keep them outdoors here). No, I don't work for Netflix, but I basically live by it. I hate most network TV here, and use it to find good shit to watch. Netflix is easily 80% of my TV viewing.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
We rent movies in the evening, and I return them on the way to work the next morning. We rarely have a redbox movie longer than 12 hours, and at 6am, there's NOBODY waiting to return movies. It's easy for us.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
We rent movies in the evening, and I return them on the way to work the next morning. We rarely have a redbox movie longer than 12 hours, and at 6am, there's NOBODY waiting to return movies. It's easy for us.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
They have Iron-man 2 available for streaming, but Iron-man (the first part) is DVD only. Weird, that!
Regards, Nish
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They used to have it streaming. I've noticed that they only have movies online for a while before they pull them.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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Out of curiosity, what time do you wake up?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Same as John. I return them on my way to work. It also happens that where I meet the vanpool, there are two Redbox machines. So it's easy. I arrive at the vanpool at 6 AM. I get back to my car by 5:15 PM so if I forget to put it in before work or am running late in the morning, I can still make the deadline.
If you know what I mean...and I think you do...
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Hulu's the one I don't get. I'm okay with advertising supported media. I grew up with three TV stations and that's how it worked. I got TV for free in exchange for commercials. However, when cable came out, the idea was you could pay a monthly fee to watch stuff without commercials. With Hulu, if you sign up for a paid plan, you still get commercials. If I get commercials, I expect free.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
And how many commercial free cable channels are there now? *snerk* :-\ I love my Hulu+ subscription, what can I say? Lately, we're looking at dropping our DirecTV and re-signing with the streaming only Netflix plan... Flynn
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And how many commercial free cable channels are there now? *snerk* :-\ I love my Hulu+ subscription, what can I say? Lately, we're looking at dropping our DirecTV and re-signing with the streaming only Netflix plan... Flynn
Yeah, I dropped Dish (had good experiences with them overall) for Netflix only and cut my bill from $120 to $20. Made sense for me because I realized I never watched anything but movies anyway.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Yeah, I dropped Dish (had good experiences with them overall) for Netflix only and cut my bill from $120 to $20. Made sense for me because I realized I never watched anything but movies anyway.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
We have a few shows we watch but not really enough to justify the cost. Otherwise we've been pretty happy with DirecTV. We've looked at some of the internet TV programs out there, but most of them are pretty crappy. For now, we're just thinking of making a simple link page on our file/web server to go to the main network sites and call it good. :) Flynn