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  • N Navin

    The problem with J# is that it doesn't make sense. See, C# is a valid musical note. It could have also been called D flat, they are the same. But J#? The notes only go up to G. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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    Paul Watson
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    Navin wrote: But J#? The notes only go up to G Gaarrrr! Trust Microsoft to throw standards to the wind. Now the music giants will have to start suing them as well. :rolleyes:

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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      Fazlul Kabir wrote: Now try to say that to a Java zealot; you'll have some interesting history lesson. You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# *Paul waits for the history lesson to commence*

      Paul Watson
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      Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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      Fazlul Kabir
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      Paul Watson wrote: *Paul waits for the history lesson to commence* Here it goes.. .. enough to show that the C# team has borrowed some of the names of classes and APIs directly from Java

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      • N Navin

        The problem with J# is that it doesn't make sense. See, C# is a valid musical note. It could have also been called D flat, they are the same. But J#? The notes only go up to G. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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        l a u r e n
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        no man ... my amp goes to 11 see and my guitar goes to j# its like ... where do u go when ur on 10 hitting a g#?? u go to 11 and hit that j# man :laugh:


        "traffic lights are for people who can't make their own decisions"
        biz stuff   about me

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          Nick Parker wrote: Umm, wait Paul, Java came out before C#, shouldn't it be the other way around Don't look at me. I just copied and pasted the text so that I could get a history lesson. :innocent angel: :rolleyes:

          Paul Watson
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          Cape Town, South Africa

          Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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          Chris Meech
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          Paul Watson wrote: :innocent angel: I think you meant :flame-thrower: ;P Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.

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          • L Le centriste

            If you know C#, you will feel at home with Java, for the syntax. The Java runtime is quite different from .NET. <joke> You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# ;) </joke>

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            Nick Parker
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            Michel Prévost wrote: You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# Huh? :omg: Try the other way around.


            Nick Parker

            You see the Standards change. - Fellow co-worker

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              Michel Prévost wrote: You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# Now try to say that to a Java zealot; you'll have some interesting history lesson.

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              Le centriste
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              In the meantime, I can teach you to discern sarcasm when you see it ;P I worked on a project written in Java. In fact, I started it with a fellow programmer. We worked on it during 1 year and a half. I liked it.

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              • R Rickard Andersson20

                ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                Kastellanos Nikos
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                Rickard Andersson wrote: so is Java stable and good to learn? Java is slow. ( I know it's not what you asked,but the fact is that it's sooooo slow that EVERY question about java can be answered with the above stament. :rolleyes:) "Java is slow" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                • L l a u r e n

                  no man ... my amp goes to 11 see and my guitar goes to j# its like ... where do u go when ur on 10 hitting a g#?? u go to 11 and hit that j# man :laugh:


                  "traffic lights are for people who can't make their own decisions"
                  biz stuff   about me

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                  Navin
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                  Well, why don't you just wire your guitar so that a 10 is a little bit higher? But then again, that one goes up to 11. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Navin wrote: But J#? The notes only go up to G Gaarrrr! Trust Microsoft to throw standards to the wind. Now the music giants will have to start suing them as well. :rolleyes:

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

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                    Navin
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                    Yep, I think the RIAA is already on top of this one. :-D :rolleyes: Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                    • L Le centriste

                      In the meantime, I can teach you to discern sarcasm when you see it ;P I worked on a project written in Java. In fact, I started it with a fellow programmer. We worked on it during 1 year and a half. I liked it.

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                      Fazlul Kabir
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                      Michel Prévost wrote: sarcasm I can see the light now; that's a powerful word, indeed.

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                      • R Rickard Andersson20

                        ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                        Rickard Andersson wrote: so is Java stable and good to learn? Language: The Java language is almost like C#, only that the fun and cool things are missing. Environment: Most IDEs suck, it's ssslllooooowwwwwww, heavy-weight, and it's very stable: you can always be sure your program won't work in a JVM you didn't test before. "Code once, debug everywhere". I see dumb people

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                          Rickard Andersson wrote: so is Java stable and good to learn? Language: The Java language is almost like C#, only that the fun and cool things are missing. Environment: Most IDEs suck, it's ssslllooooowwwwwww, heavy-weight, and it's very stable: you can always be sure your program won't work in a JVM you didn't test before. "Code once, debug everywhere". I see dumb people

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                          Daniel Turini wrote: The Java language is almost like C#, only that the fun and cool things are missing. I like it :)

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                          • R Rickard Andersson20

                            ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            so is Java stable :laugh: Are you implying cross-platform stability??? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                            Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                            Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                            • R Rickard Andersson20

                              ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                              Leifen
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                              An Andersson (note double s i Andersson) to an Andersson and a swede to a swede, yes Java is as stable as MS C++ and it is good to learn. However, it is slow. Swing is nice but even slower. You can find a lot of Java IDEs, some nice and some slow memoryhogs. However, I had to admit that I am really disappointed on Microsoft VC 6. A quite a lot of annoying bugs not fixed in any of all service packs.

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                              • N Navin

                                The problem with J# is that it doesn't make sense. See, C# is a valid musical note. It could have also been called D flat, they are the same. But J#? The notes only go up to G. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                                Chris Losinger
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                                Navin wrote: The notes only go up to G. in the German musical system, what most people know as B natural is known as "H". -c


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                                • R Rickard Andersson20

                                  ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                                  Simon Walton
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                                  It's a wonderful language, in my opinion, but unless you absolutely need the cross-platform features, don't bother.

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                                  • N Navin

                                    The problem with J# is that it doesn't make sense. See, C# is a valid musical note. It could have also been called D flat, they are the same. But J#? The notes only go up to G. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                                    Andrew Peace
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                                    I can't remember in which branch of music it was, but some group of people in the past used to use 'H' instead of B-flat, which is closer to J than G is :-). -- Andrew.

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                                      Michel Prévost wrote: You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# Huh? :omg: Try the other way around.


                                      Nick Parker

                                      You see the Standards change. - Fellow co-worker

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                                      Le centriste
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                                      That was sarcasm. Didn't you see the wink emoticon? Bah, I will modify it.

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                                      • L Le centriste

                                        If you know C#, you will feel at home with Java, for the syntax. The Java runtime is quite different from .NET. <joke> You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# ;) </joke>

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Michel Prévost wrote: You will notice that Java borrowed its syntax from C# :-D:-D:laugh: LOL - I have a friend who works at Sun, and I tell him this all the time. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                                        C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                                        Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                                        • R Rickard Andersson20

                                          ... I will start learn Java! :) IMO Java is a cool language and platform. But I don't know Java that much... so is Java stable and good to learn? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                                          Ed K
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                                          I think the following formula should explain Java from my perspective. Java = (C# - (cool stuff) - performance - RAD - performance - complexity - performance) + ((higher costs) + (deployment headaches) + (higher costs) + (build problems)); I've developed several webs and server side applications in java and recently several webs with C#. Java is a clear step backwards. ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"

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