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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I interfaced with COBOL in one of the projects to interface with a legacy AS400 based system. I did not have to understand the full program, just the data formats and the job got done with little googling.
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i spent last year translating a COBOL system into C++. it was quite an experience! it has a crazy mix of BASIC-like high level built-in stuff and C-like low level structures/unions/data type munging. plus, variable aliases are pure evil.
Chris Losinger wrote:
a crazy mix of BASIC-like high level built-in stuff and C-like low level structures/unions/data type munging
I've played that crazy shyte in the past. I think 92/93 was the last COBOL I did in anger and maybe 98/99 looking at it to find out WTF it was doing.
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I was a vet of three campaigns when I started AS/400 but it was deved under RPG
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
My first programming job was writing COBOL on a TI-990. It was COBOL 74 so didn't even have END-IF
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Chris Losinger wrote:
plus, variable aliases are pure evil.
Is that in reference to COBOL's magical 88 Levels? :)
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77 try-mid value 'n' pic x.
88 try-mid-n value 'n'.
88 try-mid-y value 'y'.oh, you mean:
bool try_mid;
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I got my current job 17 years ago because I knew COBOL. The company's minicomputer (yes, it was a 1980s Rand-McNally mini) used a non-relational Informix database interfaced using RM-COBOL applets and a job control language from Hell. I was the only one of 11 people they interviewed who admitted to knowing the language. I haven't done COBOL since 1999, when our entire system was replaced by MS-SQL and a VB front end as part of our regulatory upgrade for Y2K.
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Not me, but I personally know five people who actively develop for IBM mainframes with languages such as COBOL, PL/I and Rexx. Three of them are at Verizon, one is a consultant and one works in a Swiss bank. I also know a guy wo was a RPG developer until recently and then decided to become a real estate agent :)
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yep.
77 try-mid value 'n' pic x.
88 try-mid-n value 'n'.
88 try-mid-y value 'y'.oh, you mean:
bool try_mid;
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That's one example of their use. I used to use them a lot for "bit-wise" enumeration.
15 ws-field-attr pic 9 comp.
88 underscore value 1.
88 blink value 2.
88 protected value 4.And in some code there would be
move hdr-field-def to ws-field-attr.
if underscore Perform AddUnderscoreEscapeToBuffer.
if bink Perform AddBlinkEscapeToBuffer.
if protected Perform AddProtectedEscapeToBuffer.They allowed for pretty imaginative ways of writing truly readable code. :) [Edit] That code is probably not quite right, but it's the best I can do from memory since I'm only a couple of years away from retirement. :)
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'Probably' interfacing to a COBOL system 'somewhere'. Our app communicates to everything via FIX and so for all I know there's a COBOL system out there, somewhere, talking ot us. :~
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Same here... I think our AS/400 accounting system is COBOL, but I reach it through HTTP/XML queries... But back in the 90s, I did spend part of a summer teaching an old COBOL programmer transition to VB...
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Not me, but I personally know five people who actively develop for IBM mainframes with languages such as COBOL, PL/I and Rexx. Three of them are at Verizon, one is a consultant and one works in a Swiss bank. I also know a guy wo was a RPG developer until recently and then decided to become a real estate agent :)
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Almost as bad as the vascetomy, but hey that's another story ;)
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I just met a guy who is working for a company that wrote an application that ports COBOL code to Azure!!! Talk about working the full spectrum.
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Eeewww! I tried COBOL exactly once, in college. Ten lines (cards) of code, 106 lines of preamble, 157 error messages, and not one of the computer center experts could find a single error in my program. Never again... X|
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My first programming gig was COBOL for a Sunny Canadian insurance company, Haven't touched it since though.
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
And just today a coworker that somehow shares department with us (she is administrative staff, administrative as in "secretary") got all excited because after 2 years of requesting career change, she is finally transferred to dev, guess in charge of what? you got it, ticket support for the old-as-dinosaurs system which is written in COBOL. Of course, she was all excited about it and came running to tell us...to be brought to earth by our straight faces telling her, COBOL has been dead since 20 years ago... Sadly enough, some of the guys of the corner, to whom no one talks to, grabbed her and say they are the COBOL experts in the company...as they still develop and maintain systems, and that they'd be her teachers... :wtf:
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Eeewww! I tried COBOL exactly once, in college. Ten lines (cards) of code, 106 lines of preamble, 157 error messages, and not one of the computer center experts could find a single error in my program. Never again... X|
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You either left out a period (one of my missing '.'s generated over 1000 error messages) or maybe a blank card between the source code and the link instructions (done that too - CDC 3150 mainframe) :rolleyes:
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Received a listing last week for an opening at a large Canadian bank - they want essentially 6+ years exp in 'mainframe MVS, COBOL, JCL Utilities, and databases such as DB 2 and IMS'. For a 4 month contract. :| Not quite my skill set - will pass on to anyone who wants. and yeah I did a little COBOL in school - and actually liked it kinda - don't tell anybuddy ok?
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Chris Meech's post[^] piqued my interest because I've been talking to a few guys lately, on the quiet so as not to bust their cover, who do COBOL. So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
So it got me wondering: who's doing COBOL directly, or at the least, interfacing with COBOL modules or back end systems?
My company has a few products that use a mixture of COBOL and RPG.
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