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  • L Lost User

    Absoloutely. It is why hand pumped ales can be flat, and the vertical distance between the cellar and the pump crucial. You cant hand pump much over 3 meters or so.

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    Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Not all beers or pumps use sparklers. They change the taste of the beer, as well as the size of the head.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        Not all beers or pumps use sparklers. They change the taste of the beer, as well as the size of the head.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        not all beers? I do suppose bottle beers never used them ;) unless they are gravity taps I dont remember any hand pumps that didnt (although it has been a good few years since I worked behind a bar) even those in london had them even if they were never fitted. keg beer I will admit, never used them as you would have just ended up as foam as for the taste, I have never found anyone who prefered the taste of flat beer (or keg for that matter) to hand pulled

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          not all beers? I do suppose bottle beers never used them ;) unless they are gravity taps I dont remember any hand pumps that didnt (although it has been a good few years since I worked behind a bar) even those in london had them even if they were never fitted. keg beer I will admit, never used them as you would have just ended up as foam as for the taste, I have never found anyone who prefered the taste of flat beer (or keg for that matter) to hand pulled

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/17/sparklers-whats-the-fuss-about-then/[^] http://robsbeerquest.blogspot.com/2011/03/sparkler-argument.html[^] http://www.beerbirrabier.com/2010/05/draft-beer-sparkler-debate.html[^] It does seem to be a North versus South thing in the main part.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            wizardzz wrote:

            You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive

            No, you are calling it whatever you want. I am calling it what it IS. :) firkin "small cask, fourth part of a barrel," late 14c., apparently from M.Du. *vierdekijn, dim. of vierde, lit. "fourth, fourth part" (see fourth). I never knew that.

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            Wow a dictionary, go ahead and ignore any definition found elsewhere now.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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              http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/17/sparklers-whats-the-fuss-about-then/[^] http://robsbeerquest.blogspot.com/2011/03/sparkler-argument.html[^] http://www.beerbirrabier.com/2010/05/draft-beer-sparkler-debate.html[^] It does seem to be a North versus South thing in the main part.

              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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              aye it could be, but as the south's brewing empires gave us keg bitter I am not sure Id trust thier judgement :laugh:

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                You are aware that Theakstones is now just a name slapped on a Carsberg bitter? the people who used to make theakstones now make Black Sheep.

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                You are aware that Theakstones is now just a name slapped on a Carsberg bitter

                :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((

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                  Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.

                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                  Hand pumped ales flat?

                  Well, I meant 'not fizzy', like keg lager. (And some ales can be so un fizzy they dont produce a creamy head, seriously. Perhaps souther ales arte different? ) See how thin the head is on a pint of London Pride: http://www.google.co.uk/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1271&bih=830&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=pint+of+london+pride&oq=pint+of+london+pride&aq=f&aqi=g-mS1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=9068l11003l0l11238l12l10l0l0l0l0l363l1436l0.1.4.1l6l0[^]

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                  • W wizardzz

                    Wow a dictionary, go ahead and ignore any definition found elsewhere now.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                    wizardzz wrote:

                    Wow a dictionary, go ahead and ignore any definition found elsewhere now.

                    I will, with impunity. :)

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                    • L Lost User

                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                      You are aware that Theakstones is now just a name slapped on a Carsberg bitter

                      :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((

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                      dont cry, Paul Theakston sold Theakston to Carsberg Tetley moved over the road and set up black Sheep using the equipment from the Theakston's brewery (carsberg Tetley didnt want the brewing equipement) so Black Sheep is the old Theakston's bitter

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                        Hand pumped ales flat?

                        Well, I meant 'not fizzy', like keg lager. (And some ales can be so un fizzy they dont produce a creamy head, seriously. Perhaps souther ales arte different? ) See how thin the head is on a pint of London Pride: http://www.google.co.uk/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1271&bih=830&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=pint+of+london+pride&oq=pint+of+london+pride&aq=f&aqi=g-mS1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=9068l11003l0l11238l12l10l0l0l0l0l363l1436l0.1.4.1l6l0[^]

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                        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                        Its they way they pull up (in an Irish accent) What is supprising is that all the promo shots DO show a creamy 1 inch head

                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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