Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Windows 8 will transform PC industry

Windows 8 will transform PC industry

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
questionioshardware
47 Posts 28 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • D Dalek Dave

    As an accountant, I can bang in a column of numbers using a number pad in no time. (Seriously, my fingers are a blur, I know what I am typing and know when I have made an error). I could not do that on a touchscreen.

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

    N Offline
    N Offline
    Nagy Vilmos
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    For your example, a voice/machine interface would be faster. Imagine just reading off the numbers: 1-7-2 next 4-5-0-0-0 next 4-0-5-point-7-6 next-line! Zooming.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

    D L 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • P Pete OHanlon

      I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and, to be honest, I tend to use it just as a glorified Kindle. The sad state is that there is no "killer-app" for the tablet for me.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

      N Offline
      N Offline
      Nagy Vilmos
      wrote on last edited by
      #15

      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      The sad state is that there is no "killer-app" for the tablet for me.

      What about crazy-mutant-killer-zombie-death-match?


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

      P 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • L Lost User

        With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

        I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

        H Offline
        H Offline
        Henry Minute
        wrote on last edited by
        #16

        For content creators it is difficult to see an alternative. Unless your idea of content creation consists entirely of cut and paste. Virtual keyboards are not up to it at the present. Neither on-screen nor projected cut the mustard so far as feedback is concerned, therefore prohibiting their use, currently. The state of voice recognition doesn't appear to have changed to any remarkable degree over the last 10 years. Even when/if it matures sufficiently to be usable can you imagine the horror of trying to work in the cacophony that a typical dev shop would become. For those that are largely content consumers a tablet could be used to a large extent but even they have to input at times. I dread to think of trying to input something as short as this on a tablet. Not to mention the constant changing between the consuming device and the production device. I would find that intensely irritating.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • N Nagy Vilmos

          For your example, a voice/machine interface would be faster. Imagine just reading off the numbers: 1-7-2 next 4-5-0-0-0 next 4-0-5-point-7-6 next-line! Zooming.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

          D Offline
          D Offline
          Dalek Dave
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          I can still type faster than I could speak the numbers.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            The sad state is that there is no "killer-app" for the tablet for me.

            What about crazy-mutant-killer-zombie-death-match?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

            P Offline
            P Offline
            Pete OHanlon
            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            Got bored with it. I'm not a great one for playing computer games, so it kept me entertained for about 5 days.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

            R 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • L Lost User

              With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

              I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

              E Offline
              E Offline
              ed welch
              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              Yeah, the PC is dead - or so say tablet manufactures. Personally, I think tablets are a tempory fad. In a couple of years they'll be gone the same way as netbooks and PDAs.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • L Lost User

                With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                S Offline
                S Offline
                Simon_Whale
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                That is one closed minded view you have there! Where I work people underwrite insurance policies and to be honest they would have a nightmare entering 4 or 5 pages of printed information through a touchscreen device. Personally I think there is at the moment only limited business advantage for these types of devices. The only real advantage they have is for the home user.

                Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch

                P 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Please, don't suggest dictation software. Ignoring the obvious drawback (it's total cr@p) can you imagine the problems: 1) The noise level as we all try to code. 2) The Non-PC comments it adds when we spot a problem...

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                  N Offline
                  N Offline
                  Nagy Vilmos
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  For coders voice recognition is a non-starter. Imagine having to say "class capital-foo extends capital-bar open-brace new-line private capital-string bob semi-colon forward-slash forward-slash holds value of bob new-line capital-foo open-bracket capital-string bob close-bracket open-brace new-line this-dot-bob equals bob semi-colon new-line close-brace new-line close-brace" instead of typing:

                  class Foo extends Bar {
                  private String bob; // holds value of bob
                  Foo (String bob) {
                  this.bob=bob;
                  }
                  }


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

                  B 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • L Lost User

                    With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                    I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                    R Offline
                    R Offline
                    Ravi Sant
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    Tablets can never replace Laptops or Desktops completely. The feel and use of keyboard is unique.

                    // ♫ 99 little bugs in the code, // 99 bugs in the code // We fix a bug, compile it again // 101 little bugs in the code ♫

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • L Lost User

                      With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                      I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                      W Offline
                      W Offline
                      walterhevedeich
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #23

                      5fingers wrote:

                      A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used.

                      For it to be true, you have to make txtspeak as an accepted universal written language. :laugh:

                      Signature construction in progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.

                      D 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • W walterhevedeich

                        5fingers wrote:

                        A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used.

                        For it to be true, you have to make txtspeak as an accepted universal written language. :laugh:

                        Signature construction in progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.

                        D Offline
                        D Offline
                        Dalek Dave
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        Where Like = YouKnow;
                        Whatever
                        {
                        If CanBeArsed = True & Bovvered is Gr8er dan 5 Then L8ers
                        }
                        End Whatever

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          For coders voice recognition is a non-starter. Imagine having to say "class capital-foo extends capital-bar open-brace new-line private capital-string bob semi-colon forward-slash forward-slash holds value of bob new-line capital-foo open-bracket capital-string bob close-bracket open-brace new-line this-dot-bob equals bob semi-colon new-line close-brace new-line close-brace" instead of typing:

                          class Foo extends Bar {
                          private String bob; // holds value of bob
                          Foo (String bob) {
                          this.bob=bob;
                          }
                          }


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

                          B Offline
                          B Offline
                          BobJanova
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          Not to mention Foo = Phoo = Fu = etc, as well as your machine picking up what the next desk is saying, writing down what you say to your colleagues, and so on. Voice recognition makes sense in certain limited situations, where you can commune with the computer via a headset, typing normally is not practical, and there are not other around.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • L Lost User

                            With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                            I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                            M Offline
                            M Offline
                            Marc Clifton
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #26

                            5fingers wrote:

                            Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC.

                            There was some editorial a while ago expressing that view. I think you're right, quite frankly. Most people don't need a keyboard other than to post on facebook, twitter, or send some email. Watching the folks that come over (I'm one of the few people that has Internet access around here, and offering tea and sometimes dinner also has its benefits) there's a lot of mouse clicking and very little actual typing. For the typing, a simple foldout bluetooth keyboard for a pad would meet their needs quite well. As an example, I was going over a thesis paper (The Purpose of Education) a friend wrote. We spent several hours sitting on the couch, discussing the paper, which we were viewing on my Galaxy Tab. Much more comfortable and frankly a far better user interface. Take a page from Star Trek. You don't see keyboards on the bridge of the Enterprise, do you? Marc

                            My Blog

                            S 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • L Lost User

                              With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                              I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                              L Offline
                              L Offline
                              loyal ginger
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #27

                              The new input device is not here yet. It may be close, though. It is a device containing two sensors, one attached to the top of your head, and another looks directly at your eyes. The device will sense whatever you are thinking, and figure out what you want to enter. It enters whatever that is to the point your eyes are aiming. No physical keyboard and/or on screen keyboard are needed. Suppose you want to zoom the map displayed on screen. Just think: "Zoom," and it zooms to the degree you have in mind. Nice.

                              P 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • L loyal ginger

                                The new input device is not here yet. It may be close, though. It is a device containing two sensors, one attached to the top of your head, and another looks directly at your eyes. The device will sense whatever you are thinking, and figure out what you want to enter. It enters whatever that is to the point your eyes are aiming. No physical keyboard and/or on screen keyboard are needed. Suppose you want to zoom the map displayed on screen. Just think: "Zoom," and it zooms to the degree you have in mind. Nice.

                                P Offline
                                P Offline
                                Pete OHanlon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                Hmmmm. Not sure how effective that will be on a certain adult kind of site.

                                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

                                R 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • L Lost User

                                  With introduction of windows 8 I have an opinion that the PC hardware will change. A time is coming when no more keyboards will be used. The desktops will vanish even the laptops might vanish. Apple with its tablets will enter the wider market of PC. Most hardware companies will change too and manufacture Ipad kind of PC. What is you view?

                                  I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

                                  S Offline
                                  S Offline
                                  Single Step Debugger
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  5fingers wrote:

                                  Windows 8 will transform PC industry

                                  Yes, it could remove Microsoft from the top of the food chain. And for the touch screen replacing the mouse and the keyboard is like expecting mountain bikes to replace trains.

                                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • R Rob Smiley

                                    mmm. programming with an on-screen keyboard... looking forward to that X|

                                    "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people" - Eleanor Roosevelt "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" - Mohandas Gandhi

                                    C Offline
                                    C Offline
                                    Chris Losinger
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    it'll be easy! you'll have these little blocks of code that expose well-defined interfaces and you drag and drop them onto a workspace and hook their little interfaces together, then press Go! they'll call it Hypercard OO OLE COM DCOM Beans The Future!

                                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      Got bored with it. I'm not a great one for playing computer games, so it kept me entertained for about 5 days.

                                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

                                      R Offline
                                      R Offline
                                      RJOberg
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #31

                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      Got bored with it. I'm not a great one for playing computer games, so it kept me entertained for about 5 days.

                                      Actually this is true for most users. Average tablet/phone user fires up an app about 15 times and within a week the majority are never used again. I can only name a half a dozen which I use on a daily basis (Music and Navigation being two of those). Only one is a game and not a very graphical one either.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        Hmmmm. Not sure how effective that will be on a certain adult kind of site.

                                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

                                        R Offline
                                        R Offline
                                        RJOberg
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        Depends if it is what you are thinking consciously or not. Some people may find out things about themselves they never knew on those sites. ;P

                                        P 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • R RJOberg

                                          Depends if it is what you are thinking consciously or not. Some people may find out things about themselves they never knew on those sites. ;P

                                          P Offline
                                          P Offline
                                          Pete OHanlon
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          Well, if it was a site displaying guitars, my eyes would be all over the place.

                                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups