Why recruiters are the spawn of all evil
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
But I don't want to move to Canada...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
But I don't want to move to Canada...
In your case the opposite will be considered as a massive and unprovoked military invasion.
There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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That's crazy talk. You need to hire based on buzzwords alone.
Kill some time, play my game Hop Cheops[^]
This is exactly how the Java developers are interviewed.
There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent
No recruiter's going to be be pipelining me, no matter the size or quantity of his tools.
Chris Maunder wrote:
an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
:thumbsup: (closest emoticon I could find for "raises hand")
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
But I don't want to move to Canada...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997You and I should oversee the US office. Does Myrtle Beach suit you?
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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This is exactly how the Java developers are interviewed.
There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
You have no idea how true this is, I was in an interview and I was asked "Tell me about Java." To which I replied "Well, what would you like to know? Coding examples? What I have used Java for? How it is designed to be platform independant? Your question is a bit vague in scope." I got a deer in the headlights look as a reply. Needless to say, I didn't get the job but ended up getting a MUCH better one shortly thereafter. :-D
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that
No, No need to explain anything, just ask him that, what does he mean by 'Web 2.0' ? :)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that
No, No need to explain anything, just ask him that, what does he mean by 'Web 2.0' ? :)
That would probably be about as uncomfortable as the Tenacious D friendship test. :)
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent.
I would just ask what he suggests using as a fulcrum to make things work with Web 3.0 or 4.0. Then put his tools in his pipeline and see what comes out the other end. Actually I'd tell him I'll keep his tools in mind the next time I need a pipeline engineer.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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What? And swear in the lounge? :wtf: I reserve that for the Truly Unacceptable Swearwords: "Belgium" and "VB"
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
Oy! According to this source[^] it is UK universities and schools, not Belgian ones, that are to be linked to the poor state of affairs in Q&A. :)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent.
I would just ask what he suggests using as a fulcrum to make things work with Web 3.0 or 4.0. Then put his tools in his pipeline and see what comes out the other end. Actually I'd tell him I'll keep his tools in mind the next time I need a pipeline engineer.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
:laugh:
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave
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You and I should oversee the US office. Does Myrtle Beach suit you?
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
AspDotNetDev wrote: Does Myrtle Beach suit you? I was thinking more like Lahaina, in Maui, Hawaii. :) WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
Professionally thank them for offering their services while at the same time hint that you are not interested in their services and will likely never need their services, and maybe some chance they catch the drift.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
If only it really worked like that! In reality agents are in business to make money any way they can and they'll tell you whatever they think you want to hear; plainly, this one got it very wrong!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
But I don't want to move to Canada...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Neither do i. Not much rugby on there. Plus, like the Australians i'm forced to work with, they speak funny. Bryce
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
Professionally thank them for offering their services while at the same time hint that you are not interested in their services and will likely never need their services, and maybe some chance they catch the drift.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
I'm just not sure subttlety works with someone of tht calibre.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Are you overpaid too?
There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
Not in my case. I may be a whore, but at least I'm not cheap.
Software Zen:
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AspDotNetDev wrote: Does Myrtle Beach suit you? I was thinking more like Lahaina, in Maui, Hawaii. :) WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Tom Delany wrote:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated.
Still my favorite sig on Code Project :laugh:.
Software Zen:
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I received an email from a recruiter tell me about leveraging web 2.0 tools to pipeline quality talent. How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I don't use recruiters very often, but when I do, I treat them as a resource, one that I have to train. After that break-in period, they can be useful, as long as you keep in mind the pros and cons. Their initial email should be treated like a leaflet dropped from 10,000 feet.
Best wishes, Hans
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Chris Maunder wrote:
How do I explain that I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions?
I would tell this person the following: "I'd rather find an interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions." Just a thought. ;)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Which would translate to the recruiter as
Slacker007 wrote:
"I'd rather find a n interesting, talented, professional developer whom I like personally and who wishes to do a solid days work for a fair salary while feeling valuable for their contributions."
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
