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  • R realJSOP

    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    but can't stand that someone has done well as a result of their greed

    Ya see, I don't mind a person (or even a coproration) doing well, but when a company makes BILLIONS in profits, that means they're payroll isn't big enough. *Companies* are NOT individuals. GE (the company) not only paid zero taxes last year (and the year before , ad nauseum), but they got a refund. I'm sure the company big wigs paid their own personal individual tax bills, but GE *the company* paid nothing. GE *the company* can't even point to relevant job creation numbers to offset that fact.

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    So why go after the city? If it was you and you could legally reduce your liabilty to $0, would you? Or would you big-up and and the full wack without deductions? The governments over the last twenty plus years have avoided any tax reforms that would actually make BigCo play their real taxes.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      So why go after the city? If it was you and you could legally reduce your liabilty to $0, would you? Or would you big-up and and the full wack without deductions? The governments over the last twenty plus years have avoided any tax reforms that would actually make BigCo play their real taxes.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      realJSOP
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      I don't know about all the copy-cat protests, but the OWS is going after the corporations.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      • W wolfbinary

        For those working in the financial industry how have your companies reacted to the OWS protests?

        Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        Ian Shlasko
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        My company hasn't said anything about them, as far as I've noticed... But my coworkers talk about them now and then, mostly just trying to figure them out. Personally, I think it's excellent. If I didn't have a day job, I'd probably be down there with them... During the day, at least... I'm not crazy enough to sleep in a public square (A small one, at that). I stopped by there once a week ago Saturday, and it was pretty cool to see.

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          So, came to the UK what, 16 years ago. Got a job in banking IT, bought a house here and three in Hungary which you rent out?

          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          I'll not post any more on this thread, I wanted to clarify the facts but will not enter into a conversation with you.

          OK, didnt realise conversation with me was so scary. :) Perhaps you might credit part of your self-congratulatory success to the collapse of the Berlin wall, and having a country close by that has an ecconomy so much more advanced than your own that you have been able to milk it successfully. Because had the first of these two been different you would probably have been one of those protesting outside some government establishment about unfairness. And if the second hadnt been there you would be free, but stuck in a shit economy and probably out of work. --edit-- by the way, it isnt me downvoting you

          ============================== Nothing to say.

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          I don't normally post here but I would suggest you check on Uram Nagy's bio.

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            I don't normally post here but I would suggest you check on Uram Nagy's bio.

            Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff

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            You mean the one that says he isnt Hungarian. Yes, odd though, why he took an ex Hungarian plated car back to Hungary last week... In any case, I am only going on the evidence available, he is welcome to clarify if he likes. :)

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            • R realJSOP

              wolfbinary wrote:

              Well profiting from other people's pain is the American way

              More accurately, benefitting from someone else's misfortune is *human* nature. It's in our genes, and it doesn't matter what country you're from, so stick your elitist anti-American bullsh*t up your ass.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              elitist anti-American bullsh*t up your ass

              It's good to know you're married to your country and not ideals or principals. There are good things about this country, but they're rapidly being destroyed by the fearful and bigoted, etc that bring up token phrases like yours.

              Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                My company hasn't said anything about them, as far as I've noticed... But my coworkers talk about them now and then, mostly just trying to figure them out. Personally, I think it's excellent. If I didn't have a day job, I'd probably be down there with them... During the day, at least... I'm not crazy enough to sleep in a public square (A small one, at that). I stopped by there once a week ago Saturday, and it was pretty cool to see.

                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                wolfbinary
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                Apparently telling the truth about your country and things around you earns a 1 when you disagree with them. I don't know what Chris bothered with voting on posts. I was really looking to hear what you'd experienced at your company since I knew you worked for a hedge fund company or something like that. Thanks. I support what they're doing to. The trouble is anytime someone talks about how Americans screw people in other countries or each other for the all mighty buck they get there panties in a bunch.

                Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                • W wolfbinary

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  elitist anti-American bullsh*t up your ass

                  It's good to know you're married to your country and not ideals or principals. There are good things about this country, but they're rapidly being destroyed by the fearful and bigoted, etc that bring up token phrases like yours.

                  Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  realJSOP
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                  You must be slow or something - EVERY human has this trait, REGARDLESS of what country they call home. It's a matter of survival, and goes a lot farther back in human history than 1776. In fact, it goes all the way back before the discovery of fire. It's most definitely NOT restricted to the U.S.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  • W wolfbinary

                    Apparently telling the truth about your country and things around you earns a 1 when you disagree with them. I don't know what Chris bothered with voting on posts. I was really looking to hear what you'd experienced at your company since I knew you worked for a hedge fund company or something like that. Thanks. I support what they're doing to. The trouble is anytime someone talks about how Americans screw people in other countries or each other for the all mighty buck they get there panties in a bunch.

                    Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    realJSOP
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                    I didn't 1-vote you.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    • R realJSOP

                      I didn't 1-vote you.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      I know, John... It was only a -2, so had to be a newbie or a sock puppet. Doesn't really matter. EDIT: Oh, you meant wolf's post.

                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        I know, John... It was only a -2, so had to be a newbie or a sock puppet. Doesn't really matter. EDIT: Oh, you meant wolf's post.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Oh, you meant wolf's post.

                        Correct. :)

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        • W wolfbinary

                          Well profiting from other people's pain is the American way after all. After all narcissism is running about as prevalent as religion and is about as useful.

                          Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                          wizardzz
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                          wolfbinary wrote:

                          After all narcissism is running about as prevalent as religion

                          Your post and its hippocracy was a great example of this.

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            My company hasn't said anything about them, as far as I've noticed... But my coworkers talk about them now and then, mostly just trying to figure them out. Personally, I think it's excellent. If I didn't have a day job, I'd probably be down there with them... During the day, at least... I'm not crazy enough to sleep in a public square (A small one, at that). I stopped by there once a week ago Saturday, and it was pretty cool to see.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                            wizardzz
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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            If I didn't have a day job, I'd probably be down there with them...

                            I find it more useful to look for another day job. I think the organizers forgot how fucking cold it gets in our major financial centers (NY / Chicago) These won't last past December.

                            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                            • W wolfbinary

                              Well profiting from other people's pain is the American way after all. After all narcissism is running about as prevalent as religion and is about as useful.

                              Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              wolfbinary wrote:

                              Well profiting from other people's pain is the American way after all.

                              From who's pain are we profiting? and I'm Australian BTW :)

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                elitist anti-American bullsh*t up your ass

                                It's good to know you're married to your country and not ideals or principals. There are good things about this country, but they're rapidly being destroyed by the fearful and bigoted, etc that bring up token phrases like yours.

                                Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                wolfbinary wrote:

                                but they're rapidly being destroyed by the fearful and bigoted, etc that bring up token phrases like yours.

                                How dare you say that, it's unamerican!

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                                  You must be slow or something - EVERY human has this trait, REGARDLESS of what country they call home. It's a matter of survival, and goes a lot farther back in human history than 1776. In fact, it goes all the way back before the discovery of fire. It's most definitely NOT restricted to the U.S.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  wolfbinary
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                                  Then you must not see any difference in our country from one time to another. History is all fine and good, but the present and future matter more. We at the present have the obligation and duty to the future of our species to create or start the correct paths for all of us to get along and prosper in. Succumbing to basest of our traits is not the thing to do or excuse. If that was the case parents would never teach their kids to crap in a toilet rather than a bush. We have the capacity to teach ourselves the difference and bring ourselves out of the uncivilized behavior that still makes us uncivilized. I don't appreciate the barbarians who make excuses to stay stupid. Since this is our country we have to change it.

                                  Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    I didn't 1-vote you.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    wolfbinary
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                                    I didn't necessarily think it was you. Usually its someone who won't engage you in conversation. At least you replied.

                                    Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                      wizardzz wrote:

                                      Most in the financial arena could care less.

                                      I keep hearing this from American people, I'm pretty sure what you mean is "couldn't care less" - the exact opposite.

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                                      Yes, as an American that bugs me too. I always use "I could care less" to be a snarky way of saying "I care, but if you don't stop annoying me, I'll stop caring". I wonder if that's what wizard meant by sarcasm. I liked your link below which also led me to "beg the question". I've been confused for many years about what that phrase actually meant because of the different ways in which it was used and hence avoided using it. Now I know. So thanks for the link. But I think I will use the more appropriate turns of phrase instead.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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