naughty Norton AV
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MSE as the guys said. And make sure your Dad has LOTS of beer in before you agree to help out...
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Yeah I'm going up for Thanksgiving and that's one of the things I'll do. I was thinking of trying to walk him through this over the phone but I'm afraid that will only complicate matters.
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It may be better now - I can't comment because it was such a PITA to get rid of last time I had it on a PC that I won't touch it again - but I doubt it. Before Symantec took over, it was a good tool. Then it got greedy, and lazy, and fat, and impossible to get off cleanly. Mind you, McAfee did the same, and Symantec don't own them. Now I just stick to Microsoft Essentials - seems to work fine so far.
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Is it possible to just get it to stop working/running, without uninstalling it? For example, is it possible to just disable the Norton service?
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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Jim Crafton wrote:
...the Lotus Notes of the AV world?
No, that's McAfee. Norton is worse... :-\ We recently had a virus hit our work systems. The virus itself was created in 2010 or possibly sooner. McAfee didn't prevent the virus from running or even detect it. Mind you we have an enterprise license with them. MSE cleans the infected files and prevents the virus from running, so we're looking to switch to their enterprise version. Flynn
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Sigh, this is what I was afraid. Well I can at least disable the service (I'm assuming the Norton AV stuff is controlled via a service) right?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
s controlled via a service
The service of Satan I tell you. Norton killed my FIL's PC and ripped out it's digital soul. Ended up having to do a complete OS re-install.
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Is it possible to just get it to stop working/running, without uninstalling it? For example, is it possible to just disable the Norton service?
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In theory, yes - you can just turn it off. But it just turns itself back on again, from what I can remember...:mad:
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Jim Crafton wrote:
...the Lotus Notes of the AV world?
No, that's McAfee. Norton is worse... :-\ We recently had a virus hit our work systems. The virus itself was created in 2010 or possibly sooner. McAfee didn't prevent the virus from running or even detect it. Mind you we have an enterprise license with them. MSE cleans the infected files and prevents the virus from running, so we're looking to switch to their enterprise version. Flynn
I'll admit I am impressed with MSE - even the free version is less hassle than some of the pay-through-the-nose solutions out there.
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In theory, yes - you can just turn it off. But it just turns itself back on again, from what I can remember...:mad:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
Naturally! This is what happens when you use the Tourette's Process for software implementation.
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Microsoft Security Essentials. To uninstall Norton you will need to cast the laptop into the heart of the sun.
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ChrisElston wrote:
To uninstall Norton you will need to cast the laptop into the heart of the sun.
You're not kidding! I did this last week, Christ what a miserable registry modifying experience. I second Microsoft Security Essentials. I also have the free version Malwarebytes which I run scans periodically.
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Microsoft Security Essentials. To uninstall Norton you will need to cast the laptop into the heart of the sun.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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I have read that the very newest versions have a decent uninstaller accessed through Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel as usual. The further back you go, the more difficult it becomes. Anything older than 2009 requires working Latin, before 2007 and fluent Aramaic is needed. Before that advanced knowledge of the Black Pullet Grimoire would come in handy. There are however loads of step-by-step tutorials out here and Norton even have some on their site. One possible problem is that they released so many versions of their products (Norton Internet Security, Antivirus, Antivirus Suite etc......) that you need to be sure to find and use the appropriate method.
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I always say to use the computer under a user profile, and only log in with an admin profile when you really need to. That way the system stays safe.
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Yeah, that's the other thing I need to fix - the geniuses at Toshiba configured it with without a password and full admin access. Sigh...
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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I have read that the very newest versions have a decent uninstaller accessed through Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel as usual. The further back you go, the more difficult it becomes. Anything older than 2009 requires working Latin, before 2007 and fluent Aramaic is needed. Before that advanced knowledge of the Black Pullet Grimoire would come in handy. There are however loads of step-by-step tutorials out here and Norton even have some on their site. One possible problem is that they released so many versions of their products (Norton Internet Security, Antivirus, Antivirus Suite etc......) that you need to be sure to find and use the appropriate method.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I think this is a new version (fingers crossed) the laptop was brand new in 2011.
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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Nope, Trend Micro is the Lotus Bloats of the AV world. Installing a VS2010 plugin or similar takes at least 90 minutes.
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My parents a got a new laptop about 6 months ago. It came with some version of Norton AV, and theny have since noticed that it seems to acting strangely. From their descriptions over the phone (I haven't seen this mind you) it sounds like the laptop is freezing up or behaving sluggishly due to Norton shitting it's pants and/or attempting to do scans. So, I have heard numerous people here complain about Norton over the years, is it still the consensus that Norton is a steaming pile of crap, the Lotus Notes of the AV world? Would they be better off getting rid of it and just using Windows Defender? I had to fix a problem on the sister-in-law's computer recently and one of IT guys at work recommended using Malwarebytes, which seemed to do a very efficient and thorough job. Anyone else concur? Alternatives? How painful is it to uninstall Norton? I vaguely recall hearing horror stories about this in the past? //edit I'd like to thank everyone for the great suggestions! Thanks!
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Yeah, that's the other thing I need to fix - the geniuses at Toshiba configured it with without a password and full admin access. Sigh...
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the geniuses at Toshiba configured it with without a password and full admin access. Sigh...
You cant install to the system registry without admin rights so you should be able to remove it easilly. My favourite uninstaller, and anti AV, is Ghost. Take an image of the disk when you like the state of the system, then if ou get stuck, just revert. Simple, and sledge hammer efective. :)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the geniuses at Toshiba configured it with without a password and full admin access. Sigh...
You cant install to the system registry without admin rights so you should be able to remove it easilly. My favourite uninstaller, and anti AV, is Ghost. Take an image of the disk when you like the state of the system, then if ou get stuck, just revert. Simple, and sledge hammer efective. :)
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Good idea. I'll look into that.
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Naturally! This is what happens when you use the Tourette's Process for software implementation.
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It sets off Tourette's Syndrome when I have to work with the thing... :laugh:
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