Is it better to fear or respect your parents?
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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exactly.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I would say they are more effective means of punishment. I mean what does it really accomplish? Having your childs bum hurt for a few minutes doesn't really teach them anything IMO. I use pyschological warfare at work and the home front. You have to be careful though as childrens minds are like clay. Any treatment you give them will mold it. And as time goes on its like them going in the oven... You are not going to unform it. The thing about mind games is starting early makes them more effective. As your children learn what you are doing they adapt and you do as well. If you start late (for what ever reason... step children, parenting style change due to rebelious child etc), it is important to figure out how their brain ticks before executing any punishments (easier said than done, I know). The reason being is they will immediately play mind games back which you will likely respond to incorrectly (and in fact as they desired). I use mind games for numerous reasons: 0. Seems more effective (I just dont see how my childs bum hurting for a few minutes will teach them anything) 1. Teaches them effective skills in the real world (if a friend or colleague does something wrong do you spank them?) 2. It allows for easier adapting. If you are set on spanking for punishment it wears down any meaning as your child grows. Spanking goes like this: Age 2-5 Parent - "Alright little one thats it!" Smack Smack. Kid - "Wahhhhhh!" Age 5-9 Parent - "I told you not to do that. Time for a spanking." Kid - "Oh come on! Really!?" Age 10+ Parent - "Thats it, spanking time" Kid - "Yeah, whatever. Make it quick, I got somewhere to be." Yes, you can adapt still but if you have been use mind games all along you will be more effective. IMO parenting is not just about raising your child right, but raising your child and learning how to raise your child for the next problem they will come to you with.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Respect worked better with me than fear, or at least fear of pain. I've rattled off the kind of crap I dealt with as a kid before, pain happened, just not from within my family. What did get me pretty hard the few times I angered my parents enough to even consider hitting me was the loss of respect involved and the fact that I had done something to cause it. The one occasion where my mother was wielding a cutting board and tracking me down certainly made me realize I'd screwed up. She didn't even have to use the thing, I'd never seen her so much as pick it up to that point and she looked plenty willing to use it. Thankfully for my own hide I was quite the stealthy bugger at the time and got into the house and the appropriate ass saving position before she found me. Not entirely because I wanted to avoid the almost certain impacts involved, but mostly because I had angered her that much. Before that I'd been largely trusted to roam so long as I kept them roughly aware of where I was. That went away for quite a while after that incident. Though I made a point not to piss her off that much ever again once I got it back.
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society.
Myself I believe that effective parenting is just that. The methodology used doesn't drive whether it is effective. What matters is how it is employed. Conversely I am rather certain that most of what is 'known' about humans from psychology (excluding pharmacology and actual brain chemistry) in the last couple of centuries is nothing but psychobabble. Sometimes even provably so.
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)As they say in my small barbarian country: "The beating builds up!" :-D
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Pussy political correctness. Nothing wrong with a good flogging, teaches them right from wrong, early on the old talky talky shit is a waste of time, when old enough to understand most don't give a fuck. But a good flogging lets them know they fucked up. Reckon the world would be a much better place if schools bought back the cane and the police could give you a kick in the arse to scare the shit out of you. Both hapened to me along with floggings when I fucked up at home and it didn't hurt me in the long run. Any character flaws or problems I have are caused by many other things that have happened over my life, corporal punishment was a constant that let me know my boundaries. Funnily enough I kept going back to those boundaries over and over and if not for the pain I would have gone over them.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Difficult topic. Hitting is wrong. In rare occasions I do 'tap' my son eg on his hands for example to set his attention to the fact that the hand is not were is should be. (eg in the drawer were there are knives, which probably can lead to another discussion altogether whether you want to protect your kids from danger or learn them handle it ;-)) The 'tap' does NOT hurt, but it does give him a startle. When he gets older (he's 18 months now) I don't think tapping will work anymore, so I'll have to find alternative means (no TV when he's young, no going out when he's older, ... ;-)). So punishing changes depending on age, but hurting is never an option, however always rewarding isn't either (new discussion point) Anyway good to see some people still have som common sense. yesterday I saw a youtube video about a judge that hit his daughter with a belt :wtf:
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People follow guidelines/rules either out of fear or out of respect. Since kids can't recognize respect, yet, fear it must be. There is a thin line between abusing and being stern. Many parents are guilty of abuse but that's the problem with the individuals and not the method. A good parent will tell their kids why they were punished to let the kids know they are facing tough love more than anything else. Such a parent would also switch quickly from spanking to imposing soft authority like taking away privileges within a few years. The whole psychological damage thing is quite misplaced I feel. We read too much into it. Many cultures, especially Asian and Indian, spank their kids routinely. I don't believe there exists a single person who's grown in that culture that wasn't spanked growing up. How many have faced psychological damage? Well, one could say millions damaged in a billion would be hard to spot, but I don't feel so.
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I think you're mistaken as to what "psychological damage" means. It doesn't mean being crazy or paranoid or such extremes. It can mean difficulties trusting people, sharing things, establishing stable relationships, keeping a good job, etc... Being "psychologically damaged" can mean lack of confidence, lack of self esteem, lack of self motivation, etc... All that can be caused by any kind of abuse by the parents, be it verbal or physical, for instance constant depreciative talking, unjust punishments, etc... Note: that doesn't mean I'd let my kid(s) do whatever they want and never forbid anything, and I don't have a perfect behavior myself, but I try my best to consider what a (young) child is capable of (in terms of understanding, remembering, etc...) before "passing judgment".
'As programmers go, I'm fairly social. Which still means I'm a borderline sociopath by normal standards.' Jeff Atwood 'I'm French! Why do you think I've got this outrrrrageous accent?' Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Pussy political correctness. Nothing wrong with a good flogging, teaches them right from wrong, early on the old talky talky shit is a waste of time, when old enough to understand most don't give a fuck. But a good flogging lets them know they fucked up. Reckon the world would be a much better place if schools bought back the cane and the police could give you a kick in the arse to scare the shit out of you. Both hapened to me along with floggings when I fucked up at home and it didn't hurt me in the long run. Any character flaws or problems I have are caused by many other things that have happened over my life, corporal punishment was a constant that let me know my boundaries. Funnily enough I kept going back to those boundaries over and over and if not for the pain I would have gone over them.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
and you are an angry fuck. you are always angry, you drink too much, and you bitch and complain about everything. I wonder where all your anger and hostility started from? By the way, political correctness has absolutely nothing to do with my reasons or motivations for how I do things. As always, good talking to you. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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I think you're mistaken as to what "psychological damage" means. It doesn't mean being crazy or paranoid or such extremes. It can mean difficulties trusting people, sharing things, establishing stable relationships, keeping a good job, etc... Being "psychologically damaged" can mean lack of confidence, lack of self esteem, lack of self motivation, etc... All that can be caused by any kind of abuse by the parents, be it verbal or physical, for instance constant depreciative talking, unjust punishments, etc... Note: that doesn't mean I'd let my kid(s) do whatever they want and never forbid anything, and I don't have a perfect behavior myself, but I try my best to consider what a (young) child is capable of (in terms of understanding, remembering, etc...) before "passing judgment".
'As programmers go, I'm fairly social. Which still means I'm a borderline sociopath by normal standards.' Jeff Atwood 'I'm French! Why do you think I've got this outrrrrageous accent?' Monty Python and the Holy Grail
How do you know how I defined "psychological damage"? Strangely, for a person who tells me to not pass judgement, you do the same. It is really up to the kid to hate the parent or not for whatever means of punishment that is given to them. So the psychological damage could result by any means that the kid doesn't like to be treated. Taking away privilages like tv or videogames, when that is the most cherished thing to them at that age, is no less than hiting. (By hitting I don't mean slave master hitting, which is what all the politically correct uptight parents seemm to think.) You are ultimately making the kid not like you.
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)For me, there wasn't one spanking I received as a child that I didn't deserve, and knew I did something wrong before the punishment. I just went and did it anyway.
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I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
I grew up fearing my father rather than respecting him. Which lends to the question, is spanking an acceptable form of discipline? My father knew no other way of discipline then hitting me. Some may argue with me here on "technical" grounds but IMVHO, I consider spanking to be hitting (pain is always involved and is the key motivating factor). I don't spank my children...at all. I have found other, more effective means of discipline, without inflicting physical pain and psychological damage. I would rather have my children respect me, than fear me. My belief again, is that you don't need to inflict physical pain on a child to ensure that they grow up to be well rounded and productive individuals in society. Kind of a deep, heavy topic for a Thursday morning (U.S. time) I know but one that has been on my mind as of late. -- cheers.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I have never, and hope I never will hit The Boy (tm) My parents never really hit me (I remember one occasion when I followed my dad across a busy road without looking - luckily my Mum grabbed my collar, yanked me back to the pavement, and thwacked my legs. When I had finished crying, she calmly explained to me that she'd hit me because she was scared - I was nearly hit by a car. That lesson has stayed with me (as you can see, for nearly 50 years!) I feel that if my parents had hit me frequently, the lesson would have been less well learned. Our neighbor frequently spanks her kids. not brutal, just a 'flying spank' usually. But it is surely obvious it does no good - because she persists in doing it! Any form of deterrent needs to work, and for kids needs to be consistent. To The Boy (tm) having me or mum disappointed in him for bad behaviour (or a forgotten chore, whatever) is bad enough. He gets worried when he knows he's done something that he'll be shouted at (in his mind, being talked to sternly is being shouted at). Now he's not the best 'behaved' little boy (he told me the other day he is the third naughtiest in his class - although the teacher disagreed, and joked he could be 2nd :)He talks incessantly which gets him into trouble at school, but the punishment at school is a 3 strikes and you go sit in the kitchen on a stool for 1 minute for every year of your age. and it works. I honestly cannot see that it can do anyone any good hitting a child as a punishment or deterrent. And if you hit your kid for, say, breaking something, then how can you tell that same kid later that it's not OK to hit someone else who breaks something of theirs? I was given the occasional thwack at school - but I was far more deeply affected when I felt i lost the respect of one of the 'good' teachers for playing up (Maxxx, he said, I'm disappointed in you. Then turned and left me standing there, with no punishment. I felt like shit, and went to the staff room later to apologize.) The teachers that thwacked were pretty much a challenge to see if you could get away with it. with the odd exception (cutting off a rapist's dangly bits, for example) I don't really think inflicting pain on anyone for anything elicits an acceptable solution
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and you are an angry fuck. you are always angry, you drink too much, and you bitch and complain about everything. I wonder where all your anger and hostility started from? By the way, political correctness has absolutely nothing to do with my reasons or motivations for how I do things. As always, good talking to you. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
and you are an angry f***. you are always angry,
Why yes, yes I am.
Slacker007 wrote:
you drink too much,
I'm Australian, I barey drink enough.
Slacker007 wrote:
and you bitch and complain about everything.
You need to go back and check my posts, I only complain about Yankee land, their inability to spell or form a cognitive phrase. I could care less.
Slacker007 wrote:
By the way, political correctness has absolutely nothing to do with my reasons or motivations for how I do things.
You must be very, very lonely over there, you'd be the only Yank that isn't driven by political correctness.
Slacker007 wrote:
As always, good talking to you. :)
Why yes, yes it is.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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and you are an angry fuck. you are always angry, you drink too much, and you bitch and complain about everything. I wonder where all your anger and hostility started from? By the way, political correctness has absolutely nothing to do with my reasons or motivations for how I do things. As always, good talking to you. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I find it quite amuzing (and scary) how many people will say "My parents beat the snot out of me. Look at me I am OK" And you sit there looking at them and think, Uhhhh yeah. :thumbsup: Good job big guy. Now if you could just get your head out of your arse and look around you would see that most people think you are a total douche. Seriously though. Its like all those FB posts "If you blah blah blah and did this stupid blah blah blah, repost because you turned out OK" What kind of argument is that? Shouldn't your neighbors, siblings, friends, children, spouce be the ones to post "You are OK"? Yeah maybe you are not depressed and cowering in the corner, but if you are a total tool than clearly something in your life went wrong. How does one know they are OK? I mean I feel fine, but 100 years from now maybe a team will analyze my journals, blogs etc. and determine I am a total nut job. Or maybe they will determine we were all total nut jobs. Simply put it is just a stupid argument to say "I did it an I am OK" or "It happend to me and I am OK". To me its like the argument "Well thats how we have done it, and it has worked in the past." Times change. People change. Society changes. Children change. Punishments change. 20 years ago kids weren't dependent on half (er... almost all) the tech out there. Why not take advantage of that dependency and treat it as a privalage, thus creating room for punishment. Just seems more effective IMO, and actually teaches the child lessons about life.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.