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  • D Dennis E White

    ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

    as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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    Lost User
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    Welcome to the real world. Now please get back to work as I need to submit your our code for my article. Thank you.

    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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    • D Dennis E White

      ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

      as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Yup, it doth sucketh. On 'the other side' one of my pleasures is receiving praise and turning to the client to say 'It was not me, I am just delivering the great work our devs do.' When things go well, I pass on the praise. When things go badly, I take the shyte for the team.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Yup, it doth sucketh. On 'the other side' one of my pleasures is receiving praise and turning to the client to say 'It was not me, I am just delivering the great work our devs do.' When things go well, I pass on the praise. When things go badly, I take the shyte for the team.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        When things go well, I pass on the praise.
        When things go badly, I take the shyte for the team.

        I've had managers who do both of those the other way around. And I have resented each one of the sniveling little shits. I've had more who have done it the right way round though. Guess which I worked harder for.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          When things go well, I pass on the praise.
          When things go badly, I take the shyte for the team.

          I've had managers who do both of those the other way around. And I have resented each one of the sniveling little shits. I've had more who have done it the right way round though. Guess which I worked harder for.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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          ChrisElston wrote:

          Guess which I worked harder for.

          That's the idea. The short term gain of an attaboy from the boss, is worthless compared to the long term benefits of staff who trust you to support them.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          • D Dennis E White

            ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

            as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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            Welcome to my world. I have a Brother and a Sister who both get me to do stuff then go into work saying "I was working on this last night..." Gits!

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Welcome to my world. I have a Brother and a Sister who both get me to do stuff then go into work saying "I was working on this last night..." Gits!

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              I received an e-mail from Mrs Wife earlier. she has to prepare some briefing material for her 'big boss'. As he'll be speaking in English, he asked her to put together a few words for him to say. Said task has been forwarded to me. On an unrelated subject, she is well known as being one of the best English speakers at work.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                I received an e-mail from Mrs Wife earlier. she has to prepare some briefing material for her 'big boss'. As he'll be speaking in English, he asked her to put together a few words for him to say. Said task has been forwarded to me. On an unrelated subject, she is well known as being one of the best English speakers at work.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                A cunning linguist?

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                  Welcome to the real world. Now please get back to work as I need to submit your our code for my article. Thank you.

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                  Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                  Now please get back to work as I need to submit your our code for my article.

                  That reminds me that I have some code I need to write an article for.

                  as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Yup, it doth sucketh. On 'the other side' one of my pleasures is receiving praise and turning to the client to say 'It was not me, I am just delivering the great work our devs do.' When things go well, I pass on the praise. When things go badly, I take the shyte for the team.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Much, I like to think, like my good self!

                    MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      A cunning linguist?

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      That sucks!

                      MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                      • D Dennis E White

                        ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

                        as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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                        You might try looking them in the eye, and saying "Wow! That's some awesome code! How ever did you think of that?" If they at least blush, then it may not happen next time. If they don't, then gloves are off - next time steal some code from the interwebs, give it them, and if they don't mention your help, just say "Hey! I think I saw something like that on Code project..."

                        MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                        • D Dennis E White

                          ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

                          as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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                          Totally agree, but next time you will not help them and they'll crash and burn: revenge is just around the corner :-D

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                          • D Dennis E White

                            ok I am getting tired of helping people out only to see them take personal claim for my hard work. will it really hurt for you to say - "I was able to get it done with some help from ..." it gets really frustrating sitting in a room with these people as they discuss their code achievements.

                            as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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                            You got to earn the trust of such people. Then make your move and give them some tips that would surely bomb.

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                              That sucks!

                              MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Not 'that' but 'she' ;)


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              • D Dennis E White

                                Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                                Now please get back to work as I need to submit your our code for my article.

                                That reminds me that I have some code I need to write an article for.

                                as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged

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                                Dennis E White wrote:

                                That reminds me that I we have some code I we need to write an article for.

                                FTFY. Just be sure to put my name in the written by field and we are all good :laugh:

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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