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  • N Nithin Sundar

    Just reinstalled Windows 7 at home this week. One fine day when I was shutting down my PC, Windows decided that it was great to install updates. The usual message: "Do not turn off your PC". A few minutes later: Please do not turn off your PC. Installing update 5 of 11. And then surprise....powercut(To make things worse windows was stuck on update 5 of 11 and moved on to 6 JUST when my UPS battery backup ran out)! This screwed my windows folder and all so bad that system restore failed for every single attempt on almost all restore points and a added plus was that any USB device plugged in was automatically.....ejected. Oh well.. Note to self: Never ever underestimate the power of a powercut and...windows update. -_-!

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    LanFanNinja
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    I seriously dislike that Windows 7 does this (at least by default). If I only had a dollar for every time I went to reboot my computer and click shutdown by mistake (I would have ~$10 :laugh: ) then have to wait for updates to be installed before I can restart my computer. :mad:

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      I seriously dislike that Windows 7 does this (at least by default). If I only had a dollar for every time I went to reboot my computer and click shutdown by mistake (I would have ~$10 :laugh: ) then have to wait for updates to be installed before I can restart my computer. :mad:

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      This gets you about zero sympathy, if you don't reboot your machine as soon as asked then you get what you deserve. The bloody thing sits there and bitches at you until you reboot, not like it sneaks up on you.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        This gets you about zero sympathy, if you don't reboot your machine as soon as asked then you get what you deserve. The bloody thing sits there and bitches at you until you reboot, not like it sneaks up on you.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Not true! Every single time this has happened to me there was no prior mention of needing to restart to install updates. And I was not looking for sympathy!

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          Not true! Every single time this has happened to me there was no prior mention of needing to restart to install updates. And I was not looking for sympathy!

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          I wander around the office to see the "you need to reboot" all the time, maybe it is only XP.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          • M Mycroft Holmes

            I wander around the office to see the "you need to reboot" all the time, maybe it is only XP.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            LanFanNinja
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            It does this on Windows 7 as well just not all the time (at least in my experience). In fact since I last installed my OS about 7 months ago I have had a lot of updates installed but have only been nagged to restart to finish once or twice. :confused:

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              I wander around the office to see the "you need to reboot" all the time, maybe it is only XP.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              GuyThiebaut
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              Just press the windows key and R then type "services.msc" - navigate to automatic updates, right click and select stop - that will put an end to that annoying message :)

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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                Just press the windows key and R then type "services.msc" - navigate to automatic updates, right click and select stop - that will put an end to that annoying message :)

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                Lost User
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                GuyThiebaut wrote:

                put an end to that annoying message

                And open the doors to viruses and trojans to exploit known vulnerabilities.

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                  Just press the windows key and R then type "services.msc" - navigate to automatic updates, right click and select stop - that will put an end to that annoying message :)

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  I know a lot of people here don't have automatic updates turned on but I do, so yeah I consider that a really dumb thing to do. I also turn my machine off 90% of time when I leave the office, instal updates when they arrive and reboot immediately when asked. One of the things I DON'T do is fuck with the AV/Security of the system.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    This gets you about zero sympathy, if you don't reboot your machine as soon as asked then you get what you deserve. The bloody thing sits there and bitches at you until you reboot, not like it sneaks up on you.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Since I moved to 7 from XP, I haven't seen it once. Used to seriously annoy me on XP though! Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT*...bugger what did I lose? Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

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                      I know a lot of people here don't have automatic updates turned on but I do, so yeah I consider that a really dumb thing to do. I also turn my machine off 90% of time when I leave the office, instal updates when they arrive and reboot immediately when asked. One of the things I DON'T do is fuck with the AV/Security of the system.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      GuyThiebaut
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                      On XP it will reset the automatic updates to "on" once you have rebooted(I always switch off at the end of the day) - this method just buys you that hour or so without the annoyance of the box popping up all the time while you are working...

                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Since I moved to 7 from XP, I haven't seen it once. Used to seriously annoy me on XP though! Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT*...bugger what did I lose? Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                        The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Since I moved to 7 from XP, I haven't seen it once. Used to seriously annoy me on XP though! Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT*...bugger what did I lose? Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          Had to upvote you due to the moronic downvoting!

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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                            The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            GuyThiebaut
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                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            why the f***ing hell don't you reboot when it shows up

                            Because you are in the middle of a conference screen sharing call, or with lots of windows open and working on something urgent.... The reboot together with opening windows and getting back to where you were can take 5 minutes or more...

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                            • N Nithin Sundar

                              Just reinstalled Windows 7 at home this week. One fine day when I was shutting down my PC, Windows decided that it was great to install updates. The usual message: "Do not turn off your PC". A few minutes later: Please do not turn off your PC. Installing update 5 of 11. And then surprise....powercut(To make things worse windows was stuck on update 5 of 11 and moved on to 6 JUST when my UPS battery backup ran out)! This screwed my windows folder and all so bad that system restore failed for every single attempt on almost all restore points and a added plus was that any USB device plugged in was automatically.....ejected. Oh well.. Note to self: Never ever underestimate the power of a powercut and...windows update. -_-!

                              My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                              And this is why you need an uninterruptable power supply.

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                                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                why the f***ing hell don't you reboot when it shows up

                                Because you are in the middle of a conference screen sharing call, or with lots of windows open and working on something urgent.... The reboot together with opening windows and getting back to where you were can take 5 minutes or more...

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Mycroft Holmes
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                                Ok so there are of course some cases where it is valid to complete something before rebooting but I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                  And this is why you need an uninterruptable power supply.

                                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                  Nithin Sundar
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                                  I have an uninterruptable power supply(UPS) as I mentioned in my post but unfortunately, it isn't as uninterruptable as it claims to be after a time limit of about 15 mins. Not the great UPS you would have imagined. :D :rolleyes:

                                  My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    Ok so there are of course some cases where it is valid to complete something before rebooting but I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    GuyThiebaut
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                                    Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                    I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed

                                    that does sound like poor maintenance..

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                    • N Nithin Sundar

                                      I have an uninterruptable power supply(UPS) as I mentioned in my post but unfortunately, it isn't as uninterruptable as it claims to be after a time limit of about 15 mins. Not the great UPS you would have imagined. :D :rolleyes:

                                      My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                                      GuyThiebaut
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                                      Yes - unfortunately UPSs are only meant to provide you with enough time to shutdown safely - unfortunately with the windows update you were damned if you did shutdown and damned if you didn't...

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                                        The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        OriginalGriff
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                                        Mostly because when I was on my XP machine, it took ten minutes or so to do a reboot. I'll put up with that when I turn it on - I can go for a coffee - but not just at the whim of Microshaft!

                                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Mostly because when I was on my XP machine, it took ten minutes or so to do a reboot. I'll put up with that when I turn it on - I can go for a coffee - but not just at the whim of Microshaft!

                                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                          Don't talk to me about the reboot time, Win7 and every sercurity product ever invented to kill a processor. Reboot takes about 5 minutes till the network come on line. I have to reboot a couple of times a day and it just pisses me off severely.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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