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Why powercut sucks this week

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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    I know a lot of people here don't have automatic updates turned on but I do, so yeah I consider that a really dumb thing to do. I also turn my machine off 90% of time when I leave the office, instal updates when they arrive and reboot immediately when asked. One of the things I DON'T do is fuck with the AV/Security of the system.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    GuyThiebaut
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    On XP it will reset the automatic updates to "on" once you have rebooted(I always switch off at the end of the day) - this method just buys you that hour or so without the annoyance of the box popping up all the time while you are working...

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Since I moved to 7 from XP, I haven't seen it once. Used to seriously annoy me on XP though! Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT*...bugger what did I lose? Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

      The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Since I moved to 7 from XP, I haven't seen it once. Used to seriously annoy me on XP though! Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT*...bugger what did I lose? Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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        GuyThiebaut
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        Had to upvote you due to the moronic downvoting!

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        • M Mycroft Holmes

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

          The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Mycroft Holmes wrote:

          why the f***ing hell don't you reboot when it shows up

          Because you are in the middle of a conference screen sharing call, or with lots of windows open and working on something urgent.... The reboot together with opening windows and getting back to where you were can take 5 minutes or more...

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          • N Nithin Sundar

            Just reinstalled Windows 7 at home this week. One fine day when I was shutting down my PC, Windows decided that it was great to install updates. The usual message: "Do not turn off your PC". A few minutes later: Please do not turn off your PC. Installing update 5 of 11. And then surprise....powercut(To make things worse windows was stuck on update 5 of 11 and moved on to 6 JUST when my UPS battery backup ran out)! This screwed my windows folder and all so bad that system restore failed for every single attempt on almost all restore points and a added plus was that any USB device plugged in was automatically.....ejected. Oh well.. Note to self: Never ever underestimate the power of a powercut and...windows update. -_-!

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            And this is why you need an uninterruptable power supply.

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              Mycroft Holmes wrote:

              why the f***ing hell don't you reboot when it shows up

              Because you are in the middle of a conference screen sharing call, or with lots of windows open and working on something urgent.... The reboot together with opening windows and getting back to where you were can take 5 minutes or more...

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              Ok so there are of course some cases where it is valid to complete something before rebooting but I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                And this is why you need an uninterruptable power supply.

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                Nithin Sundar
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                I have an uninterruptable power supply(UPS) as I mentioned in my post but unfortunately, it isn't as uninterruptable as it claims to be after a time limit of about 15 mins. Not the great UPS you would have imagined. :D :rolleyes:

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  Ok so there are of course some cases where it is valid to complete something before rebooting but I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  GuyThiebaut
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                  Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                  I've seen this nag screen days after the update has completed

                  that does sound like poor maintenance..

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                  • N Nithin Sundar

                    I have an uninterruptable power supply(UPS) as I mentioned in my post but unfortunately, it isn't as uninterruptable as it claims to be after a time limit of about 15 mins. Not the great UPS you would have imagined. :D :rolleyes:

                    My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                    Yes - unfortunately UPSs are only meant to provide you with enough time to shutdown safely - unfortunately with the windows update you were damned if you did shutdown and damned if you didn't...

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                      The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Mostly because when I was on my XP machine, it took ten minutes or so to do a reboot. I'll put up with that when I turn it on - I can go for a coffee - but not just at the whim of Microshaft!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Mostly because when I was on my XP machine, it took ten minutes or so to do a reboot. I'll put up with that when I turn it on - I can go for a coffee - but not just at the whim of Microshaft!

                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Don't talk to me about the reboot time, Win7 and every sercurity product ever invented to kill a processor. Reboot takes about 5 minutes till the network come on line. I have to reboot a couple of times a day and it just pisses me off severely.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          Don't talk to me about the reboot time, Win7 and every sercurity product ever invented to kill a processor. Reboot takes about 5 minutes till the network come on line. I have to reboot a couple of times a day and it just pisses me off severely.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          So when Microshaft starts insisting you do it *NOW* do you do it straight away? :laugh:

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                          • M Mycroft Holmes

                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Typitty type...*YOU MUST REBOOT* *OH, SPACE BAR? THAT'LL DO NICELY - BOOTING*...Typitty WTF? NOOOOOO!!!

                            The perfect example I was looking for, in XP admittedly, why the fucking hell don't you reboot when it shows up. You KNOW it won't go away until you do but Oh no you're not going to interupt what you're doing you'll just put up with the nag screen, talk about stoopid! The 1 vote is to balance the idiot that thinks this ignorance is cool

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            The computer is supposed to be a tool, not something that dictates working patterns. If I'm in the middle of coding (and hey, it's my job, I'm usually in the middle of coding something) then I don't want the computer telling me it needs a five minute timeout and that it wants to close all the windows that I have open because I want the contents visible for my work! Enforced updates are a significant hit on productivity and I have them turned off ... it can update when I tell it that's okay, thank you very much.

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                              The computer is supposed to be a tool, not something that dictates working patterns. If I'm in the middle of coding (and hey, it's my job, I'm usually in the middle of coding something) then I don't want the computer telling me it needs a five minute timeout and that it wants to close all the windows that I have open because I want the contents visible for my work! Enforced updates are a significant hit on productivity and I have them turned off ... it can update when I tell it that's okay, thank you very much.

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                              Mycroft Holmes
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                              Sure but my updates turn turn up when I turn on the PC, which takes forever anyway so giving the update 5 minutes and another 5 to reboot before I get into the daily is not a problem. As said 90% of the time I shut down overnight.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              • M Mycroft Holmes

                                Sure but my updates turn turn up when I turn on the PC, which takes forever anyway so giving the update 5 minutes and another 5 to reboot before I get into the daily is not a problem. As said 90% of the time I shut down overnight.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                I often Hibernate my machine so I can keep the stuff I'm working on there for tomorrow.

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