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  • P Pete OHanlon

    The skills you have learned as a .NET developer are safe. .NET is not going away. Despite the oft-touted "fact" of the demise of Silverlight/WPF, they will still continue to run on Windows 8. WinRT is, to all intents and purposes, the next generation of .NET, and some existing WPF/SL apps have been converted to run on it with only a couple of changes to namespaces in them.

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    NormDroid
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    Shuuuuuush don't give them the trade secrets, for once I want to have an edge of the competitors. :)

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    • L Lost User

      The most important skill is to know when to watch out. 1) Don't listen to fanboys of (replace with any OS, API, framework language). They always declare anything but their favorite thingie dead and, like the dinosaurs, still keep on going a while after their own death. 2) Don't listen to doomsday prophets. They hear rumors, take them as facts, add their own worst fears, observe the flight of the birds, cast the runes and then run around preaching whatever they have 'forseen'. 3) Don't listen to Microsoft. Of all people they apparently are the last to know where they will be heading next year.

      And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
      "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

      And I smiled and was happy
      And it came worse.

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      Learn Unix, long live unix - not.

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      • R realJSOP

        Tomz_KV wrote:

        What will happen to the .NET development communities?

        .Net programmers will start cohabitating and form a mutual support network. Because of the stigma attached to clinging to old proven technologies, they will be forced into a lifestyle described as "archaic", where their mud huts have no electricity or running water, and they won't be able to get cell phone coverage. They'll be forced to grow their own food and hunt illegally, and use cash for any day-to-day puyrchases. Eventually, the US governbment will notice that they hunt and grow their own food, and use cash, andwill immediately label them as a potential terrorist organisation. Nish will also write a book about how .Net and Silverlight were okay "in their day", but that HTML5 and javascript will be the technology of the future. Of course, not being one to jump immediately on "technologies of the future", I'll probably be using .Net and Silverlight for the next 10 years or so. By then, Nish will have written another book about the discovery of remains of an ancient .Net programmer encampment in the wilds of southern Canadia.

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        Sounds like a Robin Hood, certainly looks suspicious by Homeland Security. :laugh:

        TOMZ_KV

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        • L Lost User

          Burger flipping and asking wether or not someone wants fries.

          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

          And I smiled and was happy
          And it came worse.

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          NormDroid
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          Some good, and you have perks to, handfulls of sneaky fries, finger dipping the milkshakes - a dream job!

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            What is the next skill to learn? Sheep Herding! Always work for a good sheep herder and his dog.

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            NormDroid
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            I've heard the upcoming and coming jobs is a turd farmer, especially where in countries sanition is lacking.

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            • S Smithers Jones

              CDP1802 wrote:

              like the dinosaurs, still keep on going a while after their own death

              Zombi Dinosaurs? :)

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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              No. The speed of the signals in the nerves probably was too slow for those large animals. Even coordinating the information that it is about to walk someplace with the rear legs required some extraordinary adaptations. When mortally wounded, a dinosaur probably went on without noticing until it could not go on anymore and dropped dead.

              And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
              "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

              And I smiled and was happy
              And it came worse.

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              • N NormDroid

                Crochet, knitting or even gardening.

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                Tomz_KV
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                More peaceful and enjoyable than .NET.

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                  I've heard the upcoming and coming jobs is a turd farmer, especially where in countries sanition is lacking.

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  Norm .net wrote:

                  I've heard the upcoming and coming jobs is a turd farmer, especially where in countries sanition is lacking.

                  Solid Waste Recovery Engineer

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    What is the next skill to learn? Sheep Herding! Always work for a good sheep herder and his dog.

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                    Tomz_KV
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                    The job may not be avaialble. There are too many sheep farms around, operated by computer programs written in .NET and silverlight.

                    TOMZ_KV

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                    • C Chris Meech

                      I don't know about you, but in 27 months from now, I'm going to retire. I can't wait to learn all about that. :)

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                      NormDroid
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                      How I evny you. :)

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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        The job may not be avaialble. There are too many sheep farms around, operated by computer programs written in .NET and silverlight.

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        Tomz_KV wrote:

                        The job may not be avaialble

                        True a lot of them really get into their jobs.

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          Norm .net wrote:

                          I've heard the upcoming and coming jobs is a turd farmer, especially where in countries sanition is lacking.

                          Solid Waste Recovery Engineer

                          Visual Studio Task List on Steriods - VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                          NormDroid
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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          Solid Waste Recovery Engineer

                          That's the baby :)

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                          • T Tomz_KV

                            I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Programs made with C++, MFC and Win32 still run, so don't worry that .NET is going to become totally obsolete any time soon.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              Tomz_KV wrote:

                              The job may not be avaialble

                              True a lot of them really get into their jobs.

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                              NormDroid
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                              baaaaaah :sheep:

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                              • T Tomz_KV

                                I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                Alberto Bar Noy
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                                Let's see... back in the day it ws only MFC and win32 and COM....(and VS 4.2) And then there was more COM and DCOM (and VS6) and then came .NET with WinForms which supposedly eliminated the need for COM (but could be made ComVisible VS 2003 or VS.NET) Then cam ASP.NET to revolutionize HTML.. but everyone figured that something like AJAX should be done and then before you new it you had JSON and JQuery and ATLAS (a.k.a AJAX) and eventually went back to HTML(5) (VS 2005, 2008, 2010. 20nn) Then many were lured to WPF/Silverlight and saw the light until M$ in a constant balm(er)y effort to reinvent the jumping bald man's "Developers Developers Developers" mantra said screw all that let's blow their minds and make WinRT with Windows XAML to which we rediscover that COM and DCOM never left... they always lurked there and C++ is as omnipotent as ever (whereas convincing us that WinRT and Win8 is a brave new world is an effort as impotent as ever). Bottom line... just go with the flow of what you like... in any case in 2 VS releases tops (~3 years) it will all change again and they will see the light once more... :cool:

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                                • T Tomz_KV

                                  I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                                  TOMZ_KV

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                                  Slacker007
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                                  As others have already said, .Net is not going anywhere soon. New technologies are a dime a dozen and usually don't go anywhere or do anything useful. Only a few stick around and become efficient tools. Anyone who rants and raves about the pending doom of this technology or that is just looking for face time and probably doesn't even know how to program let alone wipe their ass.

                                  Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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                                  • A Alberto Bar Noy

                                    Let's see... back in the day it ws only MFC and win32 and COM....(and VS 4.2) And then there was more COM and DCOM (and VS6) and then came .NET with WinForms which supposedly eliminated the need for COM (but could be made ComVisible VS 2003 or VS.NET) Then cam ASP.NET to revolutionize HTML.. but everyone figured that something like AJAX should be done and then before you new it you had JSON and JQuery and ATLAS (a.k.a AJAX) and eventually went back to HTML(5) (VS 2005, 2008, 2010. 20nn) Then many were lured to WPF/Silverlight and saw the light until M$ in a constant balm(er)y effort to reinvent the jumping bald man's "Developers Developers Developers" mantra said screw all that let's blow their minds and make WinRT with Windows XAML to which we rediscover that COM and DCOM never left... they always lurked there and C++ is as omnipotent as ever (whereas convincing us that WinRT and Win8 is a brave new world is an effort as impotent as ever). Bottom line... just go with the flow of what you like... in any case in 2 VS releases tops (~3 years) it will all change again and they will see the light once more... :cool:

                                    Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                                    NormDroid
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                                    These young 'uns are scared, they've boarded the IT train and didn't release how fast it went. Well I've seen a fare few technologies come and go and it's an art backing the right trend. Nowdays I sit back and watch people flap around trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

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                                      These young 'uns are scared, they've boarded the IT train and didn't release how fast it went. Well I've seen a fare few technologies come and go and it's an art backing the right trend. Nowdays I sit back and watch people flap around trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

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                                      Alberto Bar Noy
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                                      Norm .net wrote:

                                      trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

                                      And there is the problem. They don't try to feed themselves. They want to be fed

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                                        Norm .net wrote:

                                        trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

                                        And there is the problem. They don't try to feed themselves. They want to be fed

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                                        NormDroid
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                                        Cue the questions and answers forum ;)

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                                          What will happen to the .NET development communities?

                                          .Net programmers will start cohabitating and form a mutual support network. Because of the stigma attached to clinging to old proven technologies, they will be forced into a lifestyle described as "archaic", where their mud huts have no electricity or running water, and they won't be able to get cell phone coverage. They'll be forced to grow their own food and hunt illegally, and use cash for any day-to-day puyrchases. Eventually, the US governbment will notice that they hunt and grow their own food, and use cash, andwill immediately label them as a potential terrorist organisation. Nish will also write a book about how .Net and Silverlight were okay "in their day", but that HTML5 and javascript will be the technology of the future. Of course, not being one to jump immediately on "technologies of the future", I'll probably be using .Net and Silverlight for the next 10 years or so. By then, Nish will have written another book about the discovery of remains of an ancient .Net programmer encampment in the wilds of southern Canadia.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                          Wayne Gaylard
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          lifestyle described as "archaic", where their mud huts have no electricity or running water, and they won't be able to get cell phone coverage

                                          So life for me in Zim won't change at all then. :laugh:

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