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What is the next skill to learn?

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  • T Tomz_KV

    The job may not be avaialble. There are too many sheep farms around, operated by computer programs written in .NET and silverlight.

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    Mike Hankey
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    Tomz_KV wrote:

    The job may not be avaialble

    True a lot of them really get into their jobs.

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    • C Chris Meech

      I don't know about you, but in 27 months from now, I'm going to retire. I can't wait to learn all about that. :)

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      How I evny you. :)

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      • T Tomz_KV

        I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

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        hairy_hats
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        Programs made with C++, MFC and Win32 still run, so don't worry that .NET is going to become totally obsolete any time soon.

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          Norm .net wrote:

          I've heard the upcoming and coming jobs is a turd farmer, especially where in countries sanition is lacking.

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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          Solid Waste Recovery Engineer

          That's the baby :)

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            Tomz_KV wrote:

            The job may not be avaialble

            True a lot of them really get into their jobs.

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            NormDroid
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            baaaaaah :sheep:

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            • T Tomz_KV

              I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

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              Alberto Bar Noy
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              Let's see... back in the day it ws only MFC and win32 and COM....(and VS 4.2) And then there was more COM and DCOM (and VS6) and then came .NET with WinForms which supposedly eliminated the need for COM (but could be made ComVisible VS 2003 or VS.NET) Then cam ASP.NET to revolutionize HTML.. but everyone figured that something like AJAX should be done and then before you new it you had JSON and JQuery and ATLAS (a.k.a AJAX) and eventually went back to HTML(5) (VS 2005, 2008, 2010. 20nn) Then many were lured to WPF/Silverlight and saw the light until M$ in a constant balm(er)y effort to reinvent the jumping bald man's "Developers Developers Developers" mantra said screw all that let's blow their minds and make WinRT with Windows XAML to which we rediscover that COM and DCOM never left... they always lurked there and C++ is as omnipotent as ever (whereas convincing us that WinRT and Win8 is a brave new world is an effort as impotent as ever). Bottom line... just go with the flow of what you like... in any case in 2 VS releases tops (~3 years) it will all change again and they will see the light once more... :cool:

              Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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              • T Tomz_KV

                I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                TOMZ_KV

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                Slacker007
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                As others have already said, .Net is not going anywhere soon. New technologies are a dime a dozen and usually don't go anywhere or do anything useful. Only a few stick around and become efficient tools. Anyone who rants and raves about the pending doom of this technology or that is just looking for face time and probably doesn't even know how to program let alone wipe their ass.

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                • A Alberto Bar Noy

                  Let's see... back in the day it ws only MFC and win32 and COM....(and VS 4.2) And then there was more COM and DCOM (and VS6) and then came .NET with WinForms which supposedly eliminated the need for COM (but could be made ComVisible VS 2003 or VS.NET) Then cam ASP.NET to revolutionize HTML.. but everyone figured that something like AJAX should be done and then before you new it you had JSON and JQuery and ATLAS (a.k.a AJAX) and eventually went back to HTML(5) (VS 2005, 2008, 2010. 20nn) Then many were lured to WPF/Silverlight and saw the light until M$ in a constant balm(er)y effort to reinvent the jumping bald man's "Developers Developers Developers" mantra said screw all that let's blow their minds and make WinRT with Windows XAML to which we rediscover that COM and DCOM never left... they always lurked there and C++ is as omnipotent as ever (whereas convincing us that WinRT and Win8 is a brave new world is an effort as impotent as ever). Bottom line... just go with the flow of what you like... in any case in 2 VS releases tops (~3 years) it will all change again and they will see the light once more... :cool:

                  Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                  These young 'uns are scared, they've boarded the IT train and didn't release how fast it went. Well I've seen a fare few technologies come and go and it's an art backing the right trend. Nowdays I sit back and watch people flap around trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

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                  • N NormDroid

                    These young 'uns are scared, they've boarded the IT train and didn't release how fast it went. Well I've seen a fare few technologies come and go and it's an art backing the right trend. Nowdays I sit back and watch people flap around trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

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                    Alberto Bar Noy
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                    Norm .net wrote:

                    trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

                    And there is the problem. They don't try to feed themselves. They want to be fed

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                    • A Alberto Bar Noy

                      Norm .net wrote:

                      trying to guess if microsoft will feed them the next 10 years.

                      And there is the problem. They don't try to feed themselves. They want to be fed

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                      NormDroid
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                      Cue the questions and answers forum ;)

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                      • R realJSOP

                        Tomz_KV wrote:

                        What will happen to the .NET development communities?

                        .Net programmers will start cohabitating and form a mutual support network. Because of the stigma attached to clinging to old proven technologies, they will be forced into a lifestyle described as "archaic", where their mud huts have no electricity or running water, and they won't be able to get cell phone coverage. They'll be forced to grow their own food and hunt illegally, and use cash for any day-to-day puyrchases. Eventually, the US governbment will notice that they hunt and grow their own food, and use cash, andwill immediately label them as a potential terrorist organisation. Nish will also write a book about how .Net and Silverlight were okay "in their day", but that HTML5 and javascript will be the technology of the future. Of course, not being one to jump immediately on "technologies of the future", I'll probably be using .Net and Silverlight for the next 10 years or so. By then, Nish will have written another book about the discovery of remains of an ancient .Net programmer encampment in the wilds of southern Canadia.

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        lifestyle described as "archaic", where their mud huts have no electricity or running water, and they won't be able to get cell phone coverage

                        So life for me in Zim won't change at all then. :laugh:

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                        • T Tomz_KV

                          I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

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                          CPallini
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                          That's false. Or, at least, not completely true. :)

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                          • C CPallini

                            That's false. Or, at least, not completely true. :)

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                            Fuzzy logic.

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                            • N NormDroid

                              Fuzzy logic.

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                              CPallini
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                              Just remove Silverlight to get crisp values. :)

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                              • T Tomz_KV

                                I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Learn something unique, find a niche, don't do what everybody else does.

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  Learn something unique, find a niche, don't do what everybody else does.

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                                  Tomz_KV
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                                  It is easy to say than to do. Unique sometimes could mean "not marketable".

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                                  • T Tomz_KV

                                    I heard/read that SilverLight has no future and .NET as a whole is loosing its importance in Windows8. What will happen to the .NET development communities? what is the next skill to learn?

                                    TOMZ_KV

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                                    Turbo Pascal.

                                    Giraffes are not real.

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                                      Turbo Pascal.

                                      Giraffes are not real.

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                                      Tomz_KV
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                                      Do you really mean that?

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                                      • C CPallini

                                        That's false. Or, at least, not completely true. :)

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                                        Tomz_KV
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                                        It is quite certain that SilverLight will be discontinued.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Burger flipping and asking wether or not someone wants fries.

                                          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                          And I smiled and was happy
                                          And it came worse.

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                                          One burger flipping position could attract a handful of .NET Programmers.

                                          TOMZ_KV

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