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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process. Does it deserve to be called "a justice system" if it now shows 13 people were sentenced to be executed are later exonerated ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Jason Henderson wrote: Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process. Does it deserve to be called "a justice system" if it now shows 13 people were sentenced to be executed are later exonerated ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin Davies wrote: Does it deserve to be called "a justice system" if it now shows 13 people were sentenced to be executed are later exonerated ? Yes it does, just as long as those who are on death row are poor, black (or what ever the current PC term is), and not related to you.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: This crook just wants good publicity for a change or, maybe he doesn't enjoy the prospect of killing people who might not actually be guilty. -c
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Good for him! If the article's accurate, it sounds like the whole system needs scrapping and replacing anyway. A sad inditement. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Tell that to the 13 inocents. Also, people are not being released to commit more crimes. The tigress is here :-D
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Jason Henderson wrote: This crook just wants good publicity for a change or, maybe he doesn't enjoy the prospect of killing people who might not actually be guilty. -c
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process. I would not call "justice" a system where all you need to have a death sentence is a policeman, a sleeping lawyer and a plastic bag... But I've to admit that it was working very well, not white nor rich people were harmed. :~ -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/11/illinois.death.row/index.html[^] This crook just wants good publicity for a change. Too bad he has ruined the IL justice system in the process.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Obviously, none of you get it. Guilty or not, all death row inmate were commuted. If he has evidence that some may be innocent, he should investigate further and pardon them. But no, this guy has to usurp the justice system that tried them and found them guilty and commute them ALL (even the guilty ones)! There is a man on death row that used to live by us when I was a kid. He tortured and brutally killed his elderly parents (he was adopted) and stuffed them in the trunk of his car. He then drove to Indianapolis where he abandoned the car to let their bodies rot. He was guilty, and he does not deserve a commutation, IMO. But this idiot Governor gave him one, and now I have to feed him (through my tax $) for the rest of his miserable life. Justice is not served.
Jason Henderson
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Obviously, none of you get it. Guilty or not, all death row inmate were commuted. If he has evidence that some may be innocent, he should investigate further and pardon them. But no, this guy has to usurp the justice system that tried them and found them guilty and commute them ALL (even the guilty ones)! There is a man on death row that used to live by us when I was a kid. He tortured and brutally killed his elderly parents (he was adopted) and stuffed them in the trunk of his car. He then drove to Indianapolis where he abandoned the car to let their bodies rot. He was guilty, and he does not deserve a commutation, IMO. But this idiot Governor gave him one, and now I have to feed him (through my tax $) for the rest of his miserable life. Justice is not served.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: But this idiot Governor gave him one, and now I have to feed him (through my tax $) for the rest of his miserable life. I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. I can search for more info if you want, but I'm quiet sure of it. Jason Henderson wrote: Justice is not served. Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ?
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Jason Henderson wrote: But this idiot Governor gave him one, and now I have to feed him (through my tax $) for the rest of his miserable life. I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. I can search for more info if you want, but I'm quiet sure of it. Jason Henderson wrote: Justice is not served. Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ?
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KaЯl wrote: I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. Only if he's waiting on death row a long time I'm sure. KaЯl wrote: Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ? I don't want revenge, since it really hasn't effected me personally. I certainly think if you murder someone, you should pay for it with your own life.
Jason Henderson
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KaЯl wrote: I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. Only if he's waiting on death row a long time I'm sure. KaЯl wrote: Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ? I don't want revenge, since it really hasn't effected me personally. I certainly think if you murder someone, you should pay for it with your own life.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: if How many innocents are you willing to kill ? If you speak in favour of something, you take partial responmsiblity for it. The tigress is here :-D
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Jason Henderson wrote: But this idiot Governor gave him one, and now I have to feed him (through my tax $) for the rest of his miserable life. I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. I can search for more info if you want, but I'm quiet sure of it. Jason Henderson wrote: Justice is not served. Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ?
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KaЯl wrote: Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ? It depends on your point of view. If you're a close family member of someone who the inmate killed, then it's probably about revenge. If you're a sensible person, it's about justice: basically about taking the life of someone who no longer deserves it. If you're me, it's about that plus ensuring the killer never gets a chance to kill again, whether he's behind bars or not. Regards, Alvaro
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KaЯl wrote: Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ? It depends on your point of view. If you're a close family member of someone who the inmate killed, then it's probably about revenge. If you're a sensible person, it's about justice: basically about taking the life of someone who no longer deserves it. If you're me, it's about that plus ensuring the killer never gets a chance to kill again, whether he's behind bars or not. Regards, Alvaro
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain
Alvaro Mendez wrote: basically about taking the life of someone who no longer deserves it Who the f*ck are the legists to decide if a human being can live or not? God? They should rather fear than somebody decides someday they don't deserve to live! (Note for the anti-abortionnists: I've said a "human being", not a packet of cells). IMO * There's no "except..." after "You shall not Kill", i.e. no "except if he/she kills first" * The risk to kill an innocent is always too heavy, even if it's 1 for 100 billions * It's worse to live a life long in jail than an immediate killing. * Death penalty is the negation of the capacity for a human to rehabilitate, the negation of the redemption.
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Jason Henderson wrote: if How many innocents are you willing to kill ? If you speak in favour of something, you take partial responmsiblity for it. The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: How many innocents are you willing to kill ? We have a legal system in this country which, to the best of its ability, finds the innocent or the guilty. These men/women get multiple appeals. These men/women have the ability to be pardoned by the executive of the state. If they are innocent, 99% of the time they will be found to be so through the legal system. Our doofus governor decided to commute all sentences regardless of the evidence agaist them. That is a travesty of justice, IMO.
Jason Henderson
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Alvaro Mendez wrote: basically about taking the life of someone who no longer deserves it Who the f*ck are the legists to decide if a human being can live or not? God? They should rather fear than somebody decides someday they don't deserve to live! (Note for the anti-abortionnists: I've said a "human being", not a packet of cells). IMO * There's no "except..." after "You shall not Kill", i.e. no "except if he/she kills first" * The risk to kill an innocent is always too heavy, even if it's 1 for 100 billions * It's worse to live a life long in jail than an immediate killing. * Death penalty is the negation of the capacity for a human to rehabilitate, the negation of the redemption.
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KaЯl wrote: (Note for the anti-abortionnists: I've said a "human being", not a packet of cells). :laugh: Talk about innocents. KaЯl wrote: * It's worse to live a life long in jail than an immediate killing. Is it? Have you faced death?
Jason Henderson
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Trollslayer wrote: How many innocents are you willing to kill ? We have a legal system in this country which, to the best of its ability, finds the innocent or the guilty. These men/women get multiple appeals. These men/women have the ability to be pardoned by the executive of the state. If they are innocent, 99% of the time they will be found to be so through the legal system. Our doofus governor decided to commute all sentences regardless of the evidence agaist them. That is a travesty of justice, IMO.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *If they are innocent, 99% of the time they will be found to be so through the legal system. 99% is a very low percentage if the remaining 1% get killed. Do you want an hard-drive that stores correctly 99% of your data? Or a car that brakes 99% of the times you need it to stop? And you may be able to recover data or to fix a car that hit a wall for not braking in front of it but, unless you walk on the water and multiply food at request, it's difficult to recover and innocent killed. And I think that also culprit of the worst crimes didn't deserve to be killed. -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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KaЯl wrote: I tought a man condemned to death penalty costs more than one sentenced to life time. Only if he's waiting on death row a long time I'm sure. KaЯl wrote: Is it about Justice, or about Revenge ? I don't want revenge, since it really hasn't effected me personally. I certainly think if you murder someone, you should pay for it with your own life.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *I certainly think if you murder someone, you should pay for it with your own life. I really can't understand your point. Maybe it's because I live in a catholic country and in a country where death penalty has been used in the past against innocent people by the fascist government... If I killed someone killing me don't resurrect the people I killed. But killing me give me no chances to prove my innocence (and you talked about 99% reliability, but I guess that you don't want to be in the remaining 1%, even if I guess you're not black or hispanic...) and didn't let me any chance to repay the community for my crime. -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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KaЯl wrote: (Note for the anti-abortionnists: I've said a "human being", not a packet of cells). :laugh: Talk about innocents. KaЯl wrote: * It's worse to live a life long in jail than an immediate killing. Is it? Have you faced death?
Jason Henderson
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I certainly think if you murder someone, you should pay for it with your own life. I really can't understand your point. Maybe it's because I live in a catholic country and in a country where death penalty has been used in the past against innocent people by the fascist government... If I killed someone killing me don't resurrect the people I killed. But killing me give me no chances to prove my innocence (and you talked about 99% reliability, but I guess that you don't want to be in the remaining 1%, even if I guess you're not black or hispanic...) and didn't let me any chance to repay the community for my crime. -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
What I said is what I believe is right and I don't expect everyone to agree with me. But you must admit that the governor of Illinois has overstepped his legal authority on this issue. Why do we need a judicial system when the governor is going to ignore its rulings?
Jason Henderson
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