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  • B bosedk

    The anchor says that it is wrong for people to demand what they are demanding. The people demanding think it is wrong for Ellen Degeneres to be representing that company because she is gay. What's the difference? These kinds of debates that are based solely on opinions are a massive waste of time. We have quite a few of those (albeit other topics) on Indian TV too but I watch it for pure entertainment.

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    ZurdoDev
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    Thank you. They both have a right to their opinions. Why do some people blow this up way out of proportion?

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      It's no OK for atheist zealots to even exist.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      Lost User
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      No I guess it wouldn't be, but do they exist?

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        You know, I'm not sure that's water you're dousing the fire with. :) :-D

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        A little oil can't hurt, right? (right? :~ )

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          No I guess it wouldn't be, but do they exist?

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          LOL. Well, one just died recently. Many considered him quite zealous about atheism. And I believe he even called himself a zealot.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            You know, I'm not sure that's water you're dousing the fire with. :) :-D

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Well, whatever it is, it's funny.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              Talk about passing judgement. You have no idea who these moms are. And why do conservatives get criticized for standing up for what they believe and liberals don't? Give me a break. It's just their opinion. They have a right to it. Leave them alone.

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              Liberals get criticised all the time. It is just that the conservatives get criticised for hating, whilst the liberals get criticised for not hating enough.

              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                LOL. Well, one just died recently. Many considered him quite zealous about atheism. And I believe he even called himself a zealot.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                Interesting, who was that?

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                  Interesting, who was that?

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  Christopher Hitchens[^]

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                    Liberals get criticised all the time. It is just that the conservatives get criticised for hating, whilst the liberals get criticised for not hating enough.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                    It's not hate, but that's what the liberals like to call it when they're disagreed with.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      Christopher Hitchens[^]

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                      Oh him, yes.. a man of many rather extreme views I would say

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        It's not hate, but that's what the liberals like to call it when they're disagreed with.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                        Having an intense dislike of someone because of who they are isn't hate? Seems like a fairly good definition to me.

                        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                          Having an intense dislike of someone because of who they are isn't hate? Seems like a fairly good definition to me.

                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                          Yes, I agree with that definition. But nobody said Ellen was hated, just what she stands for and how she chooses to live her life. My father and mother punished me when I did wrong, they "hated" the wrong, but they loved me enough to correct me. Their hatred of my wrongdoing does not equate to hating me. The hatred of what Micheal Vic was doing (dog fighting) does not equate to hating him. The hatred of bigotry and discrimination and slavery does not equate to hating the bigoted, nor to hating the discriminator, nor to hating the slave holder. Likewise, someone hating how some people choose to live, does not equate to hating those people who live that way.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          • H hairy_hats

                            How do you know this?

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                            Henry Minute
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                            I remember you telling me. :)

                            Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                              Yes, I agree with that definition. But nobody said Ellen was hated, just what she stands for and how she chooses to live her life. My father and mother punished me when I did wrong, they "hated" the wrong, but they loved me enough to correct me. Their hatred of my wrongdoing does not equate to hating me. The hatred of what Micheal Vic was doing (dog fighting) does not equate to hating him. The hatred of bigotry and discrimination and slavery does not equate to hating the bigoted, nor to hating the discriminator, nor to hating the slave holder. Likewise, someone hating how some people choose to live, does not equate to hating those people who live that way.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                              Henry Minute
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                              ahmed zahmed wrote:

                              they loved me enough to correct me

                              Are you seriously suggesting that homosexuality can be 'corrected'?

                              Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                they loved me enough to correct me

                                Are you seriously suggesting that homosexuality can be 'corrected'?

                                Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                I think you're making a stretch. I was talking about what was being hated.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Having an intense dislike of someone because of who they are isn't hate? Seems like a fairly good definition to me.

                                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  Again, you are judging. Who didn't love Ellen in Finding Nemo, eh? She was awesome. I don't hate her but I do disagree with her. Stop trying to make everything worse than it is.

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                                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                    they loved me enough to correct me

                                    Are you seriously suggesting that homosexuality can be 'corrected'?

                                    Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    It can, but that is a WAY different topic.

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                                    • Z ZurdoDev

                                      It can, but that is a WAY different topic.

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                                      Henry Minute
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                                      I cannot agree with the first part of your post but as you say different topic. Wrong place too.

                                      Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                        Again, you are judging. Who didn't love Ellen in Finding Nemo, eh? She was awesome. I don't hate her but I do disagree with her. Stop trying to make everything worse than it is.

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                                        You don't disagree with her you disagree with who she is. Hate what you want but at least be honest about it.

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                                          You don't disagree with her you disagree with who she is. Hate what you want but at least be honest about it.

                                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Again, I disagree with what she does. Disagree and hate are very different. Stop hating on me for disagree with her.

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