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  • C Chris Maunder

    I remember back in the dark days of Visual Studio add-ins. WholeTomato Software made a very successful business by being one of the very few companies breave enough to battle VS. And then Microsoft realised extensibility was a good thing and all stops were pulled. Wait until you see the next version...

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Nish Nishant
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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    WholeTomato Software made a very successful business by being one of the very few companies breave enough to battle VS.

    And by battle you are of course referring to the use of CBT hooks to inject code into devenv and inserting a menu resource at runtime :-)

    Regards, Nish


    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      WholeTomato Software made a very successful business by being one of the very few companies breave enough to battle VS.

      And by battle you are of course referring to the use of CBT hooks to inject code into devenv and inserting a menu resource at runtime :-)

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      Chris Maunder
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      Real coders around the world just grunted, spat and/or adjusted their crotches. Back in the days when Men were Real Men, Developers were Real Developers, and Visual Studio Had Help That Was Actually Useful. Where's that bottle of red...

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Real coders around the world just grunted, spat and/or adjusted their crotches. Back in the days when Men were Real Men, Developers were Real Developers, and Visual Studio Had Help That Was Actually Useful. Where's that bottle of red...

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Nish Nishant
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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        Where's that bottle of red...

        :-D

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Real coders around the world just grunted, spat and/or adjusted their crotches. Back in the days when Men were Real Men, Developers were Real Developers, and Visual Studio Had Help That Was Actually Useful. Where's that bottle of red...

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          bryce
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          careful there Maunder, M$ will Graussify you and whip away your Microsoft C++ MVP for daring to speak your mind Bryce

          MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
          Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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            careful there Maunder, M$ will Graussify you and whip away your Microsoft C++ MVP for daring to speak your mind Bryce

            MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
            Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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            Chris Maunder
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            They can pry my tiny glass award disk[^] from my cold, dead fingers.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            • C Chris Maunder

              They can pry my tiny glass award disk[^] from my cold, dead fingers.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              bryce
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              i think they have a team for that - anyone know what its called? Bryce

              MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
              Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                i think they have a team for that - anyone know what its called? Bryce

                MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                Nish Nishant
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                bryce wrote:

                i think they have a team for that - anyone know what its called?

                The now-retired Visual J# team?

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Is there a problem with your keyboard? The shift key and several vowels don't appear to be working...


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  killabyte
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                  i think the problem is with you but lets not open that can of worms please ;P

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    I've been hinting for quite a while now that Sacha and I have been working on some software together. Well, I've been writing a Visual Studio extension and it has some settings that we show in the Tools > Options dialog. Well, it's vital that the user enters these settings (they can't get to any further activities without setting these). If only Visual Studio allowed us to get to the property page, well thanky-dank you Microsoft for giving me something awesome:

                    EnvDTE.DTE dte = (EnvDTE.DTE)Microsoft.VisualStudio.Shell.Package.GetGlobalService(typeof(SDTE));
                    dte.ExecuteCommand("Tools.Options", GuidList.PropertyPageGuid);

                    And that's it - Visual Studio shows me the settings page (all you have to do is provide the property page guid).

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    rtpHarry
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                    I am a --massive-- fan of the code project newsletters. The puns that the writer(s) come up with on a daily basis is a consistently high quality. I regularly read around 80% of the articles listed each day. I don't like this new policy of using a forum post as the subject line of the email. Its really misleading and most of the time links through to a post that's filled with drivel. No offence to the posters in this thread, you should freely discuss niche subjects like this in the forum. I'm not try to say the posters are responsible but as a reader of the newsletter I see this pop up in my inbox "Something really awesome in Visual Studio", click through to this page and its not something awesome. It doesn't make any sense to the programmers that are not working on VS addons. Its nothing I can use. I guess its something to do with trying to drum up more users in the forums but for me its just been a waste of time most of the time I click through to these posts. I can only assume this is being automatically injected based on the post popularity because I don't see why you would include this in the newsletter. Hope I don't come off as offensive, I'm just baffled as to why this has started cropping up in my favourite newsletter :)

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                      I am a --massive-- fan of the code project newsletters. The puns that the writer(s) come up with on a daily basis is a consistently high quality. I regularly read around 80% of the articles listed each day. I don't like this new policy of using a forum post as the subject line of the email. Its really misleading and most of the time links through to a post that's filled with drivel. No offence to the posters in this thread, you should freely discuss niche subjects like this in the forum. I'm not try to say the posters are responsible but as a reader of the newsletter I see this pop up in my inbox "Something really awesome in Visual Studio", click through to this page and its not something awesome. It doesn't make any sense to the programmers that are not working on VS addons. Its nothing I can use. I guess its something to do with trying to drum up more users in the forums but for me its just been a waste of time most of the time I click through to these posts. I can only assume this is being automatically injected based on the post popularity because I don't see why you would include this in the newsletter. Hope I don't come off as offensive, I'm just baffled as to why this has started cropping up in my favourite newsletter :)

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      As the author of said post, I should be offended, but I'm not. I wouldn't have chosen this post for the newsletter either, and I was surprised to see it there. I would disagree with you that this feature isn't awesome though. It really is. But no hard feelings on my part, so don't worry about it.

                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                      • R rtpHarry

                        I am a --massive-- fan of the code project newsletters. The puns that the writer(s) come up with on a daily basis is a consistently high quality. I regularly read around 80% of the articles listed each day. I don't like this new policy of using a forum post as the subject line of the email. Its really misleading and most of the time links through to a post that's filled with drivel. No offence to the posters in this thread, you should freely discuss niche subjects like this in the forum. I'm not try to say the posters are responsible but as a reader of the newsletter I see this pop up in my inbox "Something really awesome in Visual Studio", click through to this page and its not something awesome. It doesn't make any sense to the programmers that are not working on VS addons. Its nothing I can use. I guess its something to do with trying to drum up more users in the forums but for me its just been a waste of time most of the time I click through to these posts. I can only assume this is being automatically injected based on the post popularity because I don't see why you would include this in the newsletter. Hope I don't come off as offensive, I'm just baffled as to why this has started cropping up in my favourite newsletter :)

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                        User 7762783
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                        I agree. It was a interesting post to read but when I clicked on the newsletter email I was expecting an article, not a post. Seems like the subject of the email if for posts more and more here lately.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I remember back in the dark days of Visual Studio add-ins. WholeTomato Software made a very successful business by being one of the very few companies breave enough to battle VS. And then Microsoft realised extensibility was a good thing and all stops were pulled. Wait until you see the next version...

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Rob Grainger
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                          Ah yes, Whole Tomato, from the great school of frivolous software company names pioneered by the classic editor Brief from Underware.

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                          • K killabyte

                            i think the problem is with you but lets not open that can of worms please ;P

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            That'll be a problem with me too!

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              As the author of said post, I should be offended, but I'm not. I wouldn't have chosen this post for the newsletter either, and I was surprised to see it there. I would disagree with you that this feature isn't awesome though. It really is. But no hard feelings on my part, so don't worry about it.

                              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              Rob Grainger
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                              Well said. I for one found the feature of interest, but then one of my pet projects is writing a language, so extensibility is a concern of interest (although I'm miles away from worrying about it now, and the post will be buried by the time if its of use). Nonetheless, I do agree with the point that forum posts don't make good newsletter material - although I do enjoy perusing both. If they must remain there, I'd suggest putting them in a clearly identifiable section, something like "From the Forums".

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                I've been hinting for quite a while now that Sacha and I have been working on some software together. Well, I've been writing a Visual Studio extension and it has some settings that we show in the Tools > Options dialog. Well, it's vital that the user enters these settings (they can't get to any further activities without setting these). If only Visual Studio allowed us to get to the property page, well thanky-dank you Microsoft for giving me something awesome:

                                EnvDTE.DTE dte = (EnvDTE.DTE)Microsoft.VisualStudio.Shell.Package.GetGlobalService(typeof(SDTE));
                                dte.ExecuteCommand("Tools.Options", GuidList.PropertyPageGuid);

                                And that's it - Visual Studio shows me the settings page (all you have to do is provide the property page guid).

                                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                Fabio Franco
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                                So, is this going to be an extension that requires a paid license or do you have another model in mind? By the way, please be very careful with this piece of software, I avoid extensions to the maximum so it won't hurt stability.

                                "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                                  i think they have a team for that - anyone know what its called? Bryce

                                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                  Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                                  K Quinn
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                                  They just refer to it as "The Community."

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                                  • F Fabio Franco

                                    So, is this going to be an extension that requires a paid license or do you have another model in mind? By the way, please be very careful with this piece of software, I avoid extensions to the maximum so it won't hurt stability.

                                    "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    Currently it's open source. The settings are needed for authentication purposes, purely for part of the functionality. I don't want to give too much away because it's very much Sacha's brainchild and I am onboard to provide the Visual Studio experience.

                                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                      Currently it's open source. The settings are needed for authentication purposes, purely for part of the functionality. I don't want to give too much away because it's very much Sacha's brainchild and I am onboard to provide the Visual Studio experience.

                                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                      Fabio Franco
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                                      Great! I just wanted to know if I would be able to get my hands on this little baby when it's ready. Coming from you and Sacha, it's gotta be good, and being open source, it's even better; great opportunity to learn.

                                      "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        I've been hinting for quite a while now that Sacha and I have been working on some software together. Well, I've been writing a Visual Studio extension and it has some settings that we show in the Tools > Options dialog. Well, it's vital that the user enters these settings (they can't get to any further activities without setting these). If only Visual Studio allowed us to get to the property page, well thanky-dank you Microsoft for giving me something awesome:

                                        EnvDTE.DTE dte = (EnvDTE.DTE)Microsoft.VisualStudio.Shell.Package.GetGlobalService(typeof(SDTE));
                                        dte.ExecuteCommand("Tools.Options", GuidList.PropertyPageGuid);

                                        And that's it - Visual Studio shows me the settings page (all you have to do is provide the property page guid).

                                        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        There's a few tricks like that you can pull. My favourite is starting an instance of the IDE remotely and pressing buttons on it from a distance. Right freaks people out, that one does - but it's useful to know about for integration tests. :-\

                                        Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                          There's a few tricks like that you can pull. My favourite is starting an instance of the IDE remotely and pressing buttons on it from a distance. Right freaks people out, that one does - but it's useful to know about for integration tests. :-\

                                          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          Not that you would ever do this with evil intent. ;)

                                          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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