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    Nicholas Butler
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    I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

    List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

    It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

    List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

    Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

    www.NickButler.net

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      I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

      List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

      It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

      List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

      Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

      www.NickButler.net

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      TorstenH
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      shouldn't it be

      List users = FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

      that is called OOP.

      regards Torsten When I'm not working

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        shouldn't it be

        List users = FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

        that is called OOP.

        regards Torsten When I'm not working

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        OriginalGriff
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        Shouldn't that be

        List users = FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge );

        I assumed it was originally the method declaration, rather than the use, myself.

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          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

          www.NickButler.net

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          Call it the Nick Fetch Pattern. Make it part of the Nick Sterling Framework. Trade mark it, develop some course work, cash in on consulting. Developer 1: What framework are you using? Developer 2: I'm using the Sterling Framework. Developer 1: Was that the one developed by Nick? Developer 2: Heck ya. Developer 1: I wish I could afford it. Developer 2: With the student discount it's only $899.00 Developer 1: Swwweeeeeeet! Don't worry about content. That's why there is marketing.

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            Shouldn't that be

            List users = FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge );

            I assumed it was originally the method declaration, rather than the use, myself.

            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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            Nicholas Butler
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            Yes, it was - thanks :)

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              Call it the Nick Fetch Pattern. Make it part of the Nick Sterling Framework. Trade mark it, develop some course work, cash in on consulting. Developer 1: What framework are you using? Developer 2: I'm using the Sterling Framework. Developer 1: Was that the one developed by Nick? Developer 2: Heck ya. Developer 1: I wish I could afford it. Developer 2: With the student discount it's only $899.00 Developer 1: Swwweeeeeeet! Don't worry about content. That's why there is marketing.

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              Nicholas Butler
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              Excellent idea - ta :) Do you think "Nick Needs Sterling" is giving too much away? Nick

              www.NickButler.net

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              • N Nicholas Butler

                I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                www.NickButler.net

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                leppie
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                Nicholas Butler wrote:

                List<User> users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                Sadly, I like it! :thumbsup:

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                  Nicholas Butler wrote:

                  List<User> users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                  Sadly, I like it! :thumbsup:

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                  Nicholas Butler
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                  leppie wrote:

                  Sadly, I like it! :thumbsup:

                  Thanks leppie. The more I use it, the more I like it too :) Just can't find a good name for it... Nick

                  www.NickButler.net

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                    I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                    List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                    It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                    List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                    Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                    www.NickButler.net

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                    It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through. Sorry :-O The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age". (before anyone barks back please consider that I nowhere endorsed or condemned either method)

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                    • N Nicholas Butler

                      I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                      List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                      It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                      List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                      Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                      www.NickButler.net

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      The closest version of this that I could see without contemplating my navel would be an Identity Map. It's not a 100% fit, but it does fit some of your intent.

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                      • N Nicholas Butler

                        I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                        List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                        It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                        List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                        Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                        www.NickButler.net

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                        Suggestion: Predicated Queries/Query

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                          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                          www.NickButler.net

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          I like to call it poor programming. But I am outnumbered in the MS world.

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                            I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                            List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                            It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                            List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                            Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                            www.NickButler.net

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            As an alternative, it also looks a bit like a Query Object - mapping onto a Repository pattern.

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                              I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                              List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                              It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                              List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                              Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                              www.NickButler.net

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                              I'm thinking condition-based programming. I'm not sure if I just made that up right now though. Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query? It is elegant, just like Linq, and it's a good thing to do as long as you can implement it in such a way that the condition is only executed as little as possible, and you don't have to load the whole potential result set into memory and then filter it. It's more functional programming than declarative, I think. In languages where functions are first class objects (e.g. Javascript) it is more common to pass filter functions or other types of function (for example a sort order comparator) around and potentially declare them locally as you have done here. What you're passing in the 'where' parameter is a pure function.

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                                It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through. Sorry :-O The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age". (before anyone barks back please consider that I nowhere endorsed or condemned either method)

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                                Nicholas Butler
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                                peterchen wrote:

                                It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through.

                                Correct, but not very catchy :)

                                peterchen wrote:

                                The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age".

                                That was a contrived example but I agree: it's certainly not High Church. Nick

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                                  The closest version of this that I could see without contemplating my navel would be an Identity Map. It's not a 100% fit, but it does fit some of your intent.

                                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                                  Nicholas Butler
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                                  Interesting. I have also implemented this in my framework, but I just called it caching. Nick

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                                    Suggestion: Predicated Queries/Query

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                                    Nicholas Butler
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                                    Henry Minute wrote:

                                    Predicated Queries/Query

                                    I like it - thanks Henry :) Nick

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                                      Interesting. I have also implemented this in my framework, but I just called it caching. Nick

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Nicholas Butler wrote:

                                      I just called it caching

                                      Most people do. First law of patterns. They are a fancy name for stuff you already do.

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                                        I'm thinking condition-based programming. I'm not sure if I just made that up right now though. Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query? It is elegant, just like Linq, and it's a good thing to do as long as you can implement it in such a way that the condition is only executed as little as possible, and you don't have to load the whole potential result set into memory and then filter it. It's more functional programming than declarative, I think. In languages where functions are first class objects (e.g. Javascript) it is more common to pass filter functions or other types of function (for example a sort order comparator) around and potentially declare them locally as you have done here. What you're passing in the 'where' parameter is a pure function.

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                                        Nicholas Butler
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                                        BobJanova wrote:

                                        Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query?

                                        Yes, it's certainly like Linq :-D The difference is that it may or may not cause a Linq-to-Entities query to run and hit the database server.

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                                        It's more functional programming than declarative, I think.

                                        Yes, I suppose it is. I was focused on making it easy to use rather than the programming paradigm. Thanks, Nick

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                                          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                          www.NickButler.net

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          I don't know if it's known or not. You could call it "Query Mapper"

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