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    Henry Minute
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    If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

    Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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      If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

      Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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      Gary Wheeler
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      Why does the phrase 'profiteering buggers' come to mind?

      Software Zen: delete this;

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        If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

        Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        They must be running out of feet as they appear to do this on a regular basis. (BetaMax springs to mind)

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        • H Henry Minute

          If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

          Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          Bloodsuckers - as usual. I've avoided Japanese products of any kind for years.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

            Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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            LanFanNinja
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            Dirty B*tards!

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              Bloodsuckers - as usual. I've avoided Japanese products of any kind for years.

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              RJOberg
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              W∴ Balboos wrote:

              I've avoided Japanese products of any kind for years.

              Seeing as this is the music division, my guess is some US Sony Music Exec thought it was a brilliant idea after someone showed him the numbers of what happened with record sales after Michael Jackson passed.

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                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                I've avoided Japanese products of any kind for years.

                Seeing as this is the music division, my guess is some US Sony Music Exec thought it was a brilliant idea after someone showed him the numbers of what happened with record sales after Michael Jackson passed.

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                RJOberg wrote:

                my guess is

                Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ? Japan's the country that. by dumping, destroyed the US Memory Chip market in the 90's and quadrupled the price. ,Then, when a US corporate consortium nearly finished building a new (and thus more competitive) plant, they mysteriously dropped the prices so low that they non-Japanese based plant became unfeasible. On the other hand, it's illegal to import more than ca. 1 Kilo of rice into Japan - because real imports would hurt their 'traditional' industry (still using oxen to plow the fields). When Kodak was pressured to leave South Africa due to apartheid, Fuji Film moved right in (Japs were considered honorary whites in SA). Japan suck to any but other Japanese: it's been the hallmark of their national culture since always. They're predatory beasts.

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                  RJOberg wrote:

                  my guess is

                  Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ? Japan's the country that. by dumping, destroyed the US Memory Chip market in the 90's and quadrupled the price. ,Then, when a US corporate consortium nearly finished building a new (and thus more competitive) plant, they mysteriously dropped the prices so low that they non-Japanese based plant became unfeasible. On the other hand, it's illegal to import more than ca. 1 Kilo of rice into Japan - because real imports would hurt their 'traditional' industry (still using oxen to plow the fields). When Kodak was pressured to leave South Africa due to apartheid, Fuji Film moved right in (Japs were considered honorary whites in SA). Japan suck to any but other Japanese: it's been the hallmark of their national culture since always. They're predatory beasts.

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                  RJOberg
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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ?

                  As recent history has shown us, RIAA members (of which Sony belongs) are greedy b*stards who would sell their own grandmother to make a profit. With names like Kelleher, Morris and, Berger it doesn't look like the Japanese are CEOs of the music division. My guess is that Sony Music Entertainment is who would most likely have made the decision to raise the price of a music album. Edit: I don't know who downvoted you, but it most certainly was not me.

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                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                    Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ?

                    As recent history has shown us, RIAA members (of which Sony belongs) are greedy b*stards who would sell their own grandmother to make a profit. With names like Kelleher, Morris and, Berger it doesn't look like the Japanese are CEOs of the music division. My guess is that Sony Music Entertainment is who would most likely have made the decision to raise the price of a music album. Edit: I don't know who downvoted you, but it most certainly was not me.

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    "On the night of 8 August 2011, the Sony music distribution centre in Enfield, London was destroyed in an arson attack during the 2011 England riots.[34]" Wikipedia 'Sony Music Entertainment' I didn't hear of price gouging (at least not at the corporate level) for Sony's US distribution. Note that there was an English distribution center - and even if burned down, we cannot assume operations by England-based staff have ceased. Since the event occurred in England, and via it's distributions (so far as I currently know), it would seem that the gouging can easily have originated locally. Opening blurb from the BBC News Item: "Record label Sony has apologised for increasing the price of two Whitney Houston albums in the UK, hours after her death on Saturday." Makes it sound like an England-Only event.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • H Henry Minute

                      If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

                      Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                      S Houghtelin
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                      Sony has actually become quite good at shooting themselves in the foot, with all the holes in their feet they’re bound send the bullets through one of the previous holes without further injury. Not exactly a good business model for sure, as I am no longer a purchaser of Sony products, but as it is said “There’s a sucker born every minute”

                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ?

                        As recent history has shown us, RIAA members (of which Sony belongs) are greedy b*stards who would sell their own grandmother to make a profit. With names like Kelleher, Morris and, Berger it doesn't look like the Japanese are CEOs of the music division. My guess is that Sony Music Entertainment is who would most likely have made the decision to raise the price of a music album. Edit: I don't know who downvoted you, but it most certainly was not me.

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                        More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well. I'd not suspect you of a down-vote on this - we were exchanging comments, and civilly, at that.

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well. I'd not suspect you of a down-vote on this - we were exchanging comments, and civilly, at that.

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          Slacker007
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                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                          More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well.

                          How many points did you lose because of this report? Curious. I gave you a 5 to compensate as there was nothing abusive about your debate.

                          "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                          "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                            More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well. I'd not suspect you of a down-vote on this - we were exchanging comments, and civilly, at that.

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            RJOberg
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                            I think 'Report as Abuse' is the new one vote now that people realize it carries more weight than a simple one vote.

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                              W∴ Balboos wrote:

                              More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well.

                              How many points did you lose because of this report? Curious. I gave you a 5 to compensate as there was nothing abusive about your debate.

                              "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                              "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                              RJOberg
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                              I think DD mentioned that this sort of thing hits with the weight * 20.

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                                "On the night of 8 August 2011, the Sony music distribution centre in Enfield, London was destroyed in an arson attack during the 2011 England riots.[34]" Wikipedia 'Sony Music Entertainment' I didn't hear of price gouging (at least not at the corporate level) for Sony's US distribution. Note that there was an English distribution center - and even if burned down, we cannot assume operations by England-based staff have ceased. Since the event occurred in England, and via it's distributions (so far as I currently know), it would seem that the gouging can easily have originated locally. Opening blurb from the BBC News Item: "Record label Sony has apologised for increasing the price of two Whitney Houston albums in the UK, hours after her death on Saturday." Makes it sound like an England-Only event.

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                RJOberg
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                                It does sound like an England-Only event. In which case I would be mistaken blaming the US Side of Sony, assuming that they have a UK localized Sony Music Entertainment. All in all doubtful, in my mind at least, that this can go back to the Japanese side of Sony Electronics. That connection is what drew my initial response.

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                                • H Henry Minute

                                  If there were an award for shooting yourself in the foot then Sony[^] would undoubtedly win it again this year.

                                  Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                  Michael Bergman
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                                  Isn't that the life cycle of all technology companies: 1. Make something everyone likes and have people throw money at you. 2. Don't listen to your customers if the complaints are less than 10% of your user base. 3. Pay bonuses to your salespeople and executives while continuing to give your engineers unrealistic goals. 4. Watch your user base diminish. 5. Watch your best engineers leave. 6. Watch your revenues drop. 7. Watch your profits drop. 8. Soak your remaining loyal user base. 9. Complain about unfair competition. 10. Die (or become irrelevant). Case histories: NEC, Texas Instruments, GeoCities, AOL, Atari, Commodore, Apple (early, mid 1990s), Yahoo, myspace, Netscape, Expedia, Borland, Netflix (this may be premature).

                                  m.bergman

                                  For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                                  To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                                  Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    More interestingly, the gave it the "report as abuse" tag, as well.

                                    How many points did you lose because of this report? Curious. I gave you a 5 to compensate as there was nothing abusive about your debate.

                                    "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                                    "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                                    W Balboos GHB
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                                    Abuse bangs for -160 pts. Most likely from the mind who is "from between the cheeks" Odd thing is that I've put up some pretty aggressive posts without meriting a vote of abuse. Curiously, I wonder if I also lost points (to the same person) as a down-vote. Are they mutually exclusive.

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Abuse bangs for -160 pts. Most likely from the mind who is "from between the cheeks" Odd thing is that I've put up some pretty aggressive posts without meriting a vote of abuse. Curiously, I wonder if I also lost points (to the same person) as a down-vote. Are they mutually exclusive.

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Slacker007
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                                      I just reported this incident in the Bugs and Sugs forum. Hopefully, it will get some attention.

                                      "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                                      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                                        RJOberg wrote:

                                        my guess is

                                        Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ? Japan's the country that. by dumping, destroyed the US Memory Chip market in the 90's and quadrupled the price. ,Then, when a US corporate consortium nearly finished building a new (and thus more competitive) plant, they mysteriously dropped the prices so low that they non-Japanese based plant became unfeasible. On the other hand, it's illegal to import more than ca. 1 Kilo of rice into Japan - because real imports would hurt their 'traditional' industry (still using oxen to plow the fields). When Kodak was pressured to leave South Africa due to apartheid, Fuji Film moved right in (Japs were considered honorary whites in SA). Japan suck to any but other Japanese: it's been the hallmark of their national culture since always. They're predatory beasts.

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        using tariffs and import limitations to benefit ones own country, even at the expense of the industries in other countries, is completely ordinary, all over the world, and has been as long as there has been trade between nations.

                                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          RJOberg wrote:

                                          my guess is

                                          Why does your guess immediately turn to blaming it on the US ? Japan's the country that. by dumping, destroyed the US Memory Chip market in the 90's and quadrupled the price. ,Then, when a US corporate consortium nearly finished building a new (and thus more competitive) plant, they mysteriously dropped the prices so low that they non-Japanese based plant became unfeasible. On the other hand, it's illegal to import more than ca. 1 Kilo of rice into Japan - because real imports would hurt their 'traditional' industry (still using oxen to plow the fields). When Kodak was pressured to leave South Africa due to apartheid, Fuji Film moved right in (Japs were considered honorary whites in SA). Japan suck to any but other Japanese: it's been the hallmark of their national culture since always. They're predatory beasts.

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                                          loctrice
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                                          inappropriate to say the least.

                                          If it moves, compile it

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