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  • L Lost User

    Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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    LloydA111
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    Oh wow. So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!


    See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
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      Oh wow. So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!


      See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
      So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

      The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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      Single Step Debugger
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      You wish!

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      • L Lost User

        Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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        Single Step Debugger
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        Me like it.

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        • L LloydA111

          Oh wow. So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!


          See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
          So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

          The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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          Slacker007
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          Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

          So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!

          We shouldn't expect anything more. :)

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          • L Lost User

            Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

            Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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            Wjousts
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            So it's seem colors and gradients are now out again? These things seem to be cyclic. Expect VS 12 (or maybe 13 if I'm being generous) to boast about it's brightly colored icons and tasteful use of gradients.

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            • L LloydA111

              Oh wow. So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!


              See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
              So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

              The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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              Lost User
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              Quick Commands and searchable windows have nothing to do with colors, but if thats all you got from the post then I am guessing you only "looked" at it and did not read it. Even just the styling things there are items not about colors White space styling vs. line and Removal of non essential commands by default to mention a couple

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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              • L Lost User

                Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                One question: can it print source in friggin' color again now?

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                  So it's seem colors and gradients are now out again? These things seem to be cyclic. Expect VS 12 (or maybe 13 if I'm being generous) to boast about it's brightly colored icons and tasteful use of gradients.

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                  Lost User
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                  Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do. If everything is colorful and bright and you want your system to stand out and be unique tone down. Then when everyone begins to mimic you (again), brighten up. Rinse and repeat and stay ahead of the market :-D

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                    One question: can it print source in friggin' color again now?

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                    Lost User
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                    I have no idea. You can respond to the VS Blog post and maybe get an answer.

                    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do. If everything is colorful and bright and you want your system to stand out and be unique tone down. Then when everyone begins to mimic you (again), brighten up. Rinse and repeat and stay ahead of the market :-D

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      Wjousts
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                      Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                      Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do.

                      What's a river in Leicestershire got to do with anything?

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                      • L Lost User

                        Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        While I think it's generally a positive move in the interface, I am not so sure about the iconography. The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          While I think it's generally a positive move in the interface, I am not so sure about the iconography. The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.

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                          Lost User
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                          That was my thoughts as well. I think the iconography could work and I see the point, but some of the ones they showed ...:confused: But seems they are claiming the new new users find it easily. From one percpective that is sightly more important as the 'new' users just need to be retrained. The new new users however have no training and do not know the functionality (thus too much stuff hides the good stuff). Might just be we need to see it more to imprint our brains.

                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                            While I think it's generally a positive move in the interface, I am not so sure about the iconography. The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.

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                            Single Step Debugger
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                            Agreed, also next – previous bookmark are also ambiguous and I’m using them quite a lot.

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                            • L LloydA111

                              Oh wow. So by the looks of it the only thing they have changed is... new colours!


                              See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                              So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                              The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                              Tadas Budvytis
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                              That will make easy walky talky to ask management to upgrade VS

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                              • L Lost User

                                Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface. I don't meant to be the stodgy old fart but do programmers really care about icongraphy so long as it is easy to identify and is always in the same place? (Oh, wait they kept the annoying ever changing tool bar)

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                                  I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface. I don't meant to be the stodgy old fart but do programmers really care about icongraphy so long as it is easy to identify and is always in the same place? (Oh, wait they kept the annoying ever changing tool bar)

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Well, at least they aren't introducing the ribbom.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    Well, at least they aren't introducing the ribbom.

                                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                                    Quite true.

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      While I think it's generally a positive move in the interface, I am not so sure about the iconography. The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.

                                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                                      Agreed.  I hope there's a way to revert to the "Classic" look. :| /ravi

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        Well, at least they aren't introducing the ribbom.

                                        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                                        I'd switch to xCode and iOS if they did that. :) /ravi

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                                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                          I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface. I don't meant to be the stodgy old fart but do programmers really care about icongraphy so long as it is easy to identify and is always in the same place? (Oh, wait they kept the annoying ever changing tool bar)

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                                          Kyudos
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                                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                          I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface.

                                          Amen to that. I came to VS2010 from VS6 - 2010 runs like a dog in comparison. Even with multi-core compilation, it is still slower than VS6, compilation regularly freezes up my whole machine and the compilation dependency scanner seems to have taken a huge step backwards (it uses some arcane an indecipherable rules to decide what needs recompiling and when - and pretty much always decides that everything needs to be rebuilt).

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