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    Glenn Dawson
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    http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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      http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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      S Houghtelin
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      Aaaaaaaah! I'm still trying to get VS 2010 to behave :sigh:

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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        http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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        Lost User
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        Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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          http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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          It is in beta. Hopefully it does not constitute ultimate horrors into the development. :-D

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            Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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            Slacker007
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            harold aptroot wrote:

            Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

            I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to do this. Although I actually like the new look, I'm not dropping the cash for a new VS until this one has been used and abused for at least a year's time.

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            • L Lost User

              Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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              harold aptroot wrote:

              Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

              Hasn't this become the de facto practice for Microsoft at least for a few years now? They may have internally deprecated System.ApplicationException and created a new one called System.AppException just to float a bloated list of version numbers!

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                Aaaaaaaah! I'm still trying to get VS 2010 to behave :sigh:

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                Glenn Dawson
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                They've already started work on 12. ;)

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                  http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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                  Clicking the link for Visual Studio 11 Beta in MSDN gives this message "Specified search term or selected product family did not match any products." Confidence inspiring. :laugh:


                  Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                    Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Some of the updates are detailed here[^]. They seem to be making a big deal of the new Search functionality in VS, so that's obviously where they've turned their eager laser like gaze.

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                      Some of the updates are detailed here[^]. They seem to be making a big deal of the new Search functionality in VS, so that's obviously where they've turned their eager laser like gaze.

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                      Most of the stuff in the VS2010 Productivity Pack are in 11. The "Add Reference" search/sort is nice.

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                        Clicking the link for Visual Studio 11 Beta in MSDN gives this message "Specified search term or selected product family did not match any products." Confidence inspiring. :laugh:


                        Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                        S Houghtelin
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                        That's not suprising. Sounds normal to me. :-D

                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                          They've already started work on 12. ;)

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                          Oh no...[^]

                          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            That's not suprising. Sounds normal to me. :-D

                            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                            And it will be fixed in next service pack. :-D

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                              http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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                              I took it for a test drive to check out the new C++11 features they added, and while they're fun to play with, the most pleasant surprise was it feels much more responsive than VS2010. VS2010 is full of 0.5 to 1 sec lags everywhere: clicking on a menu requires half a second to show it, double clicking on a file takes over 1 second, opening an included header file can take even longer. All of the above are pretty much instantaneous in the beta. I've yet to use it with a decent sized project though...

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                                I took it for a test drive to check out the new C++11 features they added, and while they're fun to play with, the most pleasant surprise was it feels much more responsive than VS2010. VS2010 is full of 0.5 to 1 sec lags everywhere: clicking on a menu requires half a second to show it, double clicking on a file takes over 1 second, opening an included header file can take even longer. All of the above are pretty much instantaneous in the beta. I've yet to use it with a decent sized project though...

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                                Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                Not with me. Everything is instantaneous.

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                                  Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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                                  Don't take it too serious! :) I'll upgrade just by one reason: it's something fresh and definitely a lot of bugfixes made. Plus I'll never get embarrassed when my VS cannot open some project "because it's from new version"! :) The one stuff can stop you is price, but there is always another way... :-O

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                                    Don't take it too serious! :) I'll upgrade just by one reason: it's something fresh and definitely a lot of bugfixes made. Plus I'll never get embarrassed when my VS cannot open some project "because it's from new version"! :) The one stuff can stop you is price, but there is always another way... :-O

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                                    It will probably have new bugs, too. You remember when VS2010 was new, right? And 2008 before it?

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                                      http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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                                      Fabio Franco
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                                      I am so falling behind, Just now I'm catching up with Framework 4. Now with Framework 4.5 I'll just be obsolete again :((

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                                        Not with me. Everything is instantaneous.

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                                        Sergio Vicente
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                                        I also get some lag in some operations. Can you guys just tell me what type of setup are you using?

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                                          It will probably have new bugs, too. You remember when VS2010 was new, right? And 2008 before it?

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                                          You won't believe, but I used VS2010 since the first public distributive (RC or tech preview, whatever). Yep, there was SOME noncritical bugs, but in common I was comfortable to use it. Anyway, ANY software has bugs, question is how they affect your PERSONAL experience. I don't care if somebody cannot edit HTML pages, just because I do WPF apps. :) Related VS2010, nothing changed to me even after SP1 - the same IDE with great speed-up of my coding. Don't repeat rumours, don't trust friends - just try YOURSELF.

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