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  • G Glenn Dawson

    http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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    Lost User
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    Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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    • L Lost User

      Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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      Slacker007
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      harold aptroot wrote:

      Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

      I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to do this. Although I actually like the new look, I'm not dropping the cash for a new VS until this one has been used and abused for at least a year's time.

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      • L Lost User

        Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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        harold aptroot wrote:

        Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

        Hasn't this become the de facto practice for Microsoft at least for a few years now? They may have internally deprecated System.ApplicationException and created a new one called System.AppException just to float a bloated list of version numbers!

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        • G Glenn Dawson

          http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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          Clicking the link for Visual Studio 11 Beta in MSDN gives this message "Specified search term or selected product family did not match any products." Confidence inspiring. :laugh:


          Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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            Aaaaaaaah! I'm still trying to get VS 2010 to behave :sigh:

            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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            Glenn Dawson
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            They've already started work on 12. ;)

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            • L Lost User

              Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Some of the updates are detailed here[^]. They seem to be making a big deal of the new Search functionality in VS, so that's obviously where they've turned their eager laser like gaze.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Some of the updates are detailed here[^]. They seem to be making a big deal of the new Search functionality in VS, so that's obviously where they've turned their eager laser like gaze.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                Glenn Dawson
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                Most of the stuff in the VS2010 Productivity Pack are in 11. The "Add Reference" search/sort is nice.

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                  Clicking the link for Visual Studio 11 Beta in MSDN gives this message "Specified search term or selected product family did not match any products." Confidence inspiring. :laugh:


                  Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                  S Houghtelin
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                  That's not suprising. Sounds normal to me. :-D

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  • G Glenn Dawson

                    They've already started work on 12. ;)

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                    Oh no...[^]

                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    • S S Houghtelin

                      That's not suprising. Sounds normal to me. :-D

                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      And it will be fixed in next service pack. :-D

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                      • G Glenn Dawson

                        http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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                        I took it for a test drive to check out the new C++11 features they added, and while they're fun to play with, the most pleasant surprise was it feels much more responsive than VS2010. VS2010 is full of 0.5 to 1 sec lags everywhere: clicking on a menu requires half a second to show it, double clicking on a file takes over 1 second, opening an included header file can take even longer. All of the above are pretty much instantaneous in the beta. I've yet to use it with a decent sized project though...

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                          I took it for a test drive to check out the new C++11 features they added, and while they're fun to play with, the most pleasant surprise was it feels much more responsive than VS2010. VS2010 is full of 0.5 to 1 sec lags everywhere: clicking on a menu requires half a second to show it, double clicking on a file takes over 1 second, opening an included header file can take even longer. All of the above are pretty much instantaneous in the beta. I've yet to use it with a decent sized project though...

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                          Michael Kingsford Gray
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                          Not with me. Everything is instantaneous.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Before I waste any of my practically infinite bandwidth on that, could you (or anyone else) please link to a list of new features? I can't seem to find them (only some lame predictions and wishlists). Surely that's not because all they changed was the looks?

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                            Thornik
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                            Don't take it too serious! :) I'll upgrade just by one reason: it's something fresh and definitely a lot of bugfixes made. Plus I'll never get embarrassed when my VS cannot open some project "because it's from new version"! :) The one stuff can stop you is price, but there is always another way... :-O

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                              Don't take it too serious! :) I'll upgrade just by one reason: it's something fresh and definitely a lot of bugfixes made. Plus I'll never get embarrassed when my VS cannot open some project "because it's from new version"! :) The one stuff can stop you is price, but there is always another way... :-O

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                              It will probably have new bugs, too. You remember when VS2010 was new, right? And 2008 before it?

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                              • G Glenn Dawson

                                http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#ultimate[^] VS 11 Product Guide[^] VS 11 Product Comparison[^]

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                                Fabio Franco
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                                I am so falling behind, Just now I'm catching up with Framework 4. Now with Framework 4.5 I'll just be obsolete again :((

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                                  Not with me. Everything is instantaneous.

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                                  Sergio Vicente
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                                  I also get some lag in some operations. Can you guys just tell me what type of setup are you using?

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                                    It will probably have new bugs, too. You remember when VS2010 was new, right? And 2008 before it?

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                                    Thornik
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                                    You won't believe, but I used VS2010 since the first public distributive (RC or tech preview, whatever). Yep, there was SOME noncritical bugs, but in common I was comfortable to use it. Anyway, ANY software has bugs, question is how they affect your PERSONAL experience. I don't care if somebody cannot edit HTML pages, just because I do WPF apps. :) Related VS2010, nothing changed to me even after SP1 - the same IDE with great speed-up of my coding. Don't repeat rumours, don't trust friends - just try YOURSELF.

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                                      You won't believe, but I used VS2010 since the first public distributive (RC or tech preview, whatever). Yep, there was SOME noncritical bugs, but in common I was comfortable to use it. Anyway, ANY software has bugs, question is how they affect your PERSONAL experience. I don't care if somebody cannot edit HTML pages, just because I do WPF apps. :) Related VS2010, nothing changed to me even after SP1 - the same IDE with great speed-up of my coding. Don't repeat rumours, don't trust friends - just try YOURSELF.

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                                      Pre SP1, VS2010 used to go completely black for me once in a while. Alt-tabbing back and forth would fix it. Various weird things that could be fixed by cleaning the solution and rebuilding everything also seems to have disappeared since SP1. Granted these things aren't showstoppers, but they annoyed me.

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                                        It will probably have new bugs, too. You remember when VS2010 was new, right? And 2008 before it?

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                                        Philippe Mori
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                                        In fact, I have found that most of the newer versions fix important problems found in earlier versions. Thus they are generally more stable.

                                        Philippe Mori

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