Internet Sin
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You're not the type of person who needs or even wants a lot of social interaction. That's fine, and because of that, Facebook is probably not for you, which is also fine. I guess I'm just saying that the fact that Facebook isn't for you isn't the same as saying that Facebook users are "a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage".
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You're still here? (That was a joke.. I'm enjoying getting older because the life of a grumpy old crumudgeon has always seemed like a type of heaven to me. :-D )
Just leaving. Sorry to take up so much of your time. ;P
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Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF
Biggest Internet Sin - is abusing "GOTO" ;-) Every time you see "CLICK LINK (download/information/... you name it ) HERE" - you can be sure IT IS NOT HERE! More offen it will be just a one more step on ladder :-) So, it become not more efficient than old stile library where you jump from one reference to enother before get informatoin :-) Note: there is small but important difference between to be fast and to be efficient...
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loctrice wrote:
I make it a point to NOT buy anything I've seen ad advertisement for.
Make sure you never read a print version of MSDN magazine. You might see an ad for CodeProject there. :) /ravi
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I'm like you I don't hardly watch TV since they lengthened the commercial time to 30%. Used to be if a show you wanted to watch was coming on you did what you needed to do then sit down and watch the whole thing with little interruption now I'm of the age where when a commercial comes on I get up and do other things and by the time it comes back on I forgot what I was watching.
Mike Hankey wrote:
I'm like you I don't hardly watch TV since they lengthened the commercial
time to 30%.Based on a timed experiment I did in 1971, commercial time for a 30-minute program could be as high as ten minutes of the total for some programs on some networks. Other experiments later in the 70s established for me that yes, commercial frequency went up and duration went down during the last hour of a two-hour-plus special (it was particularly noticeable during sports games). That is around the time I read The Medium is the Massage by Marshall McLuhan and started getting tuned to how media works, and how it works on you.
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I don't like to: 1: Hear about everyone's day. 2: Be showered with links to funny cat videos. 3: Sort through hundreds of pictures. 4: Share stupid jokes. 5: Get a link to your favorite new song only to get Rick Rolled. It takes all the will power I have to endure a 20 minute visit from the neighbor, or from a relative. Usually after my wife and kids tell me about their day I've had all the dialog I can stand and I want to go hide under the bed. I've yet to see a genuinely funny cat video (1) and I'm 45 so I've heard every joke ever told. Your taste in music sucks and your political opinions are going to destroy Western Civilization (2). So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life. Unless I missed something? NOTES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Don't get me started on cat people. 2) That would be the collective 'You' and not 'You' specifically.
MehGerbil wrote:
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So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life.
Unless I missed something?Nope, that would cover it all :laugh:
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MehGerbil wrote:
I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one... Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks.
I always find it interesting how non-Facebook users categorize what other people use Facebook for. It's reminds me of when a child decides he doesn't like a certain food without ever taking a bite.
*shrug* I don't use facebook and have never even been to the site, but whenever I hear colleagues and other people talking about it I get pretty much the same impression of it as the OP. These people may not be representative of the community on facebook, nor may their talk represent accurately what they really use it for, but it seems I'm not the only non-Facebook user who arrived at that impression. My reasons for not joining are that a) I have a strong feeling that it's a big time-sink, and I already have enough ways of wasting my time available as it is b) I've never heard about facebook is that it's ever been used for anything productive. Both may be subjective, but everything I hear confirms their validity. This is not about 'taking one bite', it's about smelling the waste while walking over a dump site. Nobody's going to make me eat what I already smell is rotten.
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Biggest Internet Sin - is abusing "GOTO" ;-) Every time you see "CLICK LINK (download/information/... you name it ) HERE" - you can be sure IT IS NOT HERE! More offen it will be just a one more step on ladder :-) So, it become not more efficient than old stile library where you jump from one reference to enother before get informatoin :-) Note: there is small but important difference between to be fast and to be efficient...
That's a good point actually: I've seen some sites that put it to extremes: First you google for something you want, then you click on a link and land on just such a site as you describe. Only that instead of the thing you're looking for, you just find a heap full of links to go somewhere else. If you're lucky, you'll be able to spot a link to the place you actually want, but more often than not that takes minutes just to identify that link. :doh: Then when you click on that link, you're again led to a page that seems to contain everything but what you came for. At that point I usually give up and go back to check other links from google, avoiding any links also leading to the same site... :^) When I'm really desperate I might to go further, but I've learned that if a piece of information cannot be found after the second step (starting from google), it's most likely not there at all.
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3: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start playing immediately. Or contain the news story plus 2 other stories in the clip. Or not offer a text based story of the video as well.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
News sites aren't the only guilty ones on this count. I can't tell you how many software development, business, or other products have missed out on me as a customer because there was no way for me to find out what they were about without sitting through a video. Startups are particularly bad about this, despite the fact that the startup phase, when nobody knows what you do yet, is the worst possible time to turn away potentially interested people. "What is this about? Oh, I need to commit 2, 5, or 10 minutes of my undivided attention to even find out the first detail about the thing? I can't even determine whether the product is interesting at all or worth spending 15 minutes investigating without first spending 15 minutes investigating it? [closes window]" Sorry, you have to show me a reason to believe your thing is worth my time before asking me to spend my time on it. And videos that play immediately, or any site that contains ads with auto-playing videos, are guaranteed to lose more than 50% of the visitors who go there from work, when they are embarrassed to have sound suddenly coming from their speakers and immediately close the window.
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News sites aren't the only guilty ones on this count. I can't tell you how many software development, business, or other products have missed out on me as a customer because there was no way for me to find out what they were about without sitting through a video. Startups are particularly bad about this, despite the fact that the startup phase, when nobody knows what you do yet, is the worst possible time to turn away potentially interested people. "What is this about? Oh, I need to commit 2, 5, or 10 minutes of my undivided attention to even find out the first detail about the thing? I can't even determine whether the product is interesting at all or worth spending 15 minutes investigating without first spending 15 minutes investigating it? [closes window]" Sorry, you have to show me a reason to believe your thing is worth my time before asking me to spend my time on it. And videos that play immediately, or any site that contains ads with auto-playing videos, are guaranteed to lose more than 50% of the visitors who go there from work, when they are embarrassed to have sound suddenly coming from their speakers and immediately close the window.
Trajan McGill wrote:
"What is this about? Oh, I need to commit 2, 5, or 10 minutes of my undivided attention to even find out the first detail about the thing? I can't even determine whether the product is interesting at all or worth spending 15 minutes investigating without first spending 15 minutes investigating it? [closes window]" Sorry, you have to show me a reason to believe your thing is worth my time before asking me to spend my time on it.
Oh I fucking love when startups pull this shit. They won't even tell you what they are doing until you watch the video, which does so much tell what they do as much as how awesome they will be and how great they will make your life. I think they stole this whole setup from Scientology.
Trajan McGill wrote:
And videos that play immediately, or any site that contains ads with auto-playing videos, are guaranteed to lose more than 50% of the visitors who go there from work, when they are embarrassed to have sound suddenly coming from their speakers and immediately close the window.
Or people in public, or people at home, but around family members. People that design sites this way must think everyone uses the internet in isolation.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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MehGerbil wrote:
My Dropbox account is free.
They never send me anything.Yes, well, Dropbox has paid versions as well that support the free versions, instead of using advertising. So, those of us paying for larger storage are supporting you. Where is my 'thank you'? ;)
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF
I am not a programmer or IT guy, just average Joe. I WILL NOT watch 99% of the videos on the 'net. I WHOLLY AGREE that text is a must. The absence of text shows laziness and/or stupidity. I DO NOT have Facebook or Twitter accounts. The local radio stations have contests. However, to enter one must "Twitter" the reply. WE who refuse to "Twitter" are effectively banned. They even state "no phone calls". Discrimination??? I WILL NOT buy 99% of the products advertised on TV, radio of the 'net. I WILL NEVER buy "As Seen On TV" or Infomercial products. I ZAP as many ads as I can when watching TV. Rather watch Sesame Street on PBS. I began using the 'net while still using Win 3.1, and Netscape 1.0, circa '94. Not one friggin ad. No viruses or spyware. Slow with images on(14.4 modem) But loads of meaningful info. I sorta miss those days. BTW... I'm in my mid 60's. The above are constitant with my rebel mentality. Just doing my small part to rid us of corp. intrusion.