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  • D David Crow

    MehGerbil wrote:

    Does anyone else do this...

    I do. I've never been a fan of shortened names (e.g., no vowels, abbreviated abbreviations), especially when there's no reason.

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    TorstenH
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    I do too. Because I like to think about the task and not only what kind of value that damn variable was. One colleague does not. It's a mess.

    regards Torsten When I'm not working

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      Probably a variable that could stick handle. See Wayne Gretzky[^]. :)

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      It is hard replying to the correct message. :-D


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        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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        Simon_Whale
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        I generally like descriptive names, one developer that I worked with use to abbreviate them so much it was more of a decipher his variable names before you could work out his code.

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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep

          Shouldn't it be whatTheElephantAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep?

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          OriginalGriff
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          No, my coding standards specifically ban swear words.

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          • S Simon_Whale

            I generally like descriptive names, one developer that I worked with use to abbreviate them so much it was more of a decipher his variable names before you could work out his code.

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            TorstenH
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            ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

            regards Torsten When I'm not working

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              ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

              regards Torsten When I'm not working

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              Simon_Whale
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              it normally takes me a day and a notepad to work it out oh and a large supply of :java:

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                After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                My favorite variable names are:

                $_
                $#
                $^W
                @ARGV

                The full list can be found here: http://affy.blogspot.com/p5be/ch12.htm[^]

                utf8-cpp

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                  After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                  Jason Hooper
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                  public class MehGerbilToldMeToEvenThoughItFeelsWrong_Record
                  {
                  public string MehGerbilWouldBeProudOtherwiseIWouldntDoThis_RecordID { get; set; }
                  public void ImStartingToThinkIMightHaveAProblem();
                  }

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                  • L Lost User

                    After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    I agree 100% But I also try to find names that are as short as possible, but accurate and descriptive. I also hate underscores, I much prefer camelCasing and PascalCasing. I use camelCasing for private names & local variables, and PascalCasing for public and class names.

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                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                      My favorite variable names are:

                      $_
                      $#
                      $^W
                      @ARGV

                      The full list can be found here: http://affy.blogspot.com/p5be/ch12.htm[^]

                      utf8-cpp

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      ah, perl, a synonym for "line noise".

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                      • L Lost User

                        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                        Single Step Debugger
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                        I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

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                          I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          And easy to remember for any real geek :)

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                            After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            I do that as well. I tend to use complete words in most of my names. The only ones that get abbreviated tend to be for loop index variables: PHi instead of 'printhead index', for example.

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                              for ( int i=0; i<10; i++)
                              {
                              for ( int eye=0; eye<10; eye++)
                              {
                              for (int aye=0; aye<10; aye++ )
                              {
                              }
                              }
                              }

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                              for ( int i=0; i<10; i++)
                              {
                              for ( int eye=0; eye<10; eye++)
                              {
                              for (int aye=0; aye<10; aye++ )
                              {
                              for (int aargh=0; aargh<10; aargh++ )
                              {
                              }
                              }
                              }
                              }

                              Sorry, couldn't resist

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                              • V Vark111

                                "Object" smells of Hungarian notation and elderberries. ;P I'm on a crusade at my workplace to stamp out Hungarian, so I'm just particularly sensitive to those sorts of things. Anyway, Hungarian aside, I use full and complete names. Pascal case or camel case depending on context. The only abbreviation I use is "Id".

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                                lewax00
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                                Vark111 wrote:

                                I'm on a crusade at my workplace to stamp out Hungarian

                                Well in a decent IDE it's mostly redundant now anyways, you can generally just hover over the variable to find out what its type is.

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                                  I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I do so as well; however, I refer to them as GloballyUniqueIdentifiers.

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                                    At least I don't use x or y like some of those other sorts of people. :laugh:

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                                    I seem to remember using a version of Basic (TRS-80?) where i and j were predeclared integers and x, y floats?? Or maybe I was dreaming...

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                                      I seem to remember using a version of Basic (TRS-80?) where i and j were predeclared integers and x, y floats?? Or maybe I was dreaming...

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                                      xiecsuk
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                                      Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                                      Wagham I'm just too old to really give a damn!!

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                                        I once used Hungarian notation in a project and another developer looked at it, rolled his eyes, and then sighed 'oh, Hungarian notation'. He was one of those self-aggrandizaing pricks who looked down on everyone else. He eventually went off and got a job at a prestigious company earning twice what I make. I hate that guy. :-D

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                                        Jonathan C Dickinson
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                                        MehGerbil wrote:

                                        earning twice what I make.

                                        Because the code fairies saw no reason to punish him because he did not use hungarian notation. It's like an OSS project I worked on - the hungarian notation for a class was 'x' followed by a capital letter (which is two extra keystrokes). Pretty-much everything was a class and therefore 'x' was used for pretty-much any variable. It added absolutely no value to the quality of the code because everything was just 'x'. New developers would think that we just added them in front of everything so they didn't ever use the usual 'i', 'd', 'f', 'h' etc. It was completely wrong in the first place because a 'reference type' (class) should be an 'h' because it's a pointer. I only have a limited amount of keystrokes available in my life and I quickly decided to expend them on other things. Some nights I dream about each dying kitten as a developer uses hungarian notation. I don't think the code fairies will ever forgive me: the dreams won't stop.

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                                        • X xiecsuk

                                          Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                                          Wagham I'm just too old to really give a damn!!

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                                          xiecsuk wrote:

                                          Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                                          Of course! How could I have forgotten that?

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