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  • S Simon_Whale

    I generally like descriptive names, one developer that I worked with use to abbreviate them so much it was more of a decipher his variable names before you could work out his code.

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    TorstenH
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    ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

    regards Torsten When I'm not working

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      ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

      regards Torsten When I'm not working

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      Simon_Whale
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      it normally takes me a day and a notepad to work it out oh and a large supply of :java:

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      • L Lost User

        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        My favorite variable names are:

        $_
        $#
        $^W
        @ARGV

        The full list can be found here: http://affy.blogspot.com/p5be/ch12.htm[^]

        utf8-cpp

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          After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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          Jason Hooper
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          {
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          public void ImStartingToThinkIMightHaveAProblem();
          }

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          • L Lost User

            After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            I agree 100% But I also try to find names that are as short as possible, but accurate and descriptive. I also hate underscores, I much prefer camelCasing and PascalCasing. I use camelCasing for private names & local variables, and PascalCasing for public and class names.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              My favorite variable names are:

              $_
              $#
              $^W
              @ARGV

              The full list can be found here: http://affy.blogspot.com/p5be/ch12.htm[^]

              utf8-cpp

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              ah, perl, a synonym for "line noise".

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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              • L Lost User

                After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                Single Step Debugger
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                I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

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                  I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  And easy to remember for any real geek :)

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                  • L Lost User

                    After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    I do that as well. I tend to use complete words in most of my names. The only ones that get abbreviated tend to be for loop index variables: PHi instead of 'printhead index', for example.

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      for ( int i=0; i<10; i++)
                      {
                      for ( int eye=0; eye<10; eye++)
                      {
                      for (int aye=0; aye<10; aye++ )
                      {
                      }
                      }
                      }

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                      Jorgen Andersson
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                      for ( int i=0; i<10; i++)
                      {
                      for ( int eye=0; eye<10; eye++)
                      {
                      for (int aye=0; aye<10; aye++ )
                      {
                      for (int aargh=0; aargh<10; aargh++ )
                      {
                      }
                      }
                      }
                      }

                      Sorry, couldn't resist

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                      • V Vark111

                        "Object" smells of Hungarian notation and elderberries. ;P I'm on a crusade at my workplace to stamp out Hungarian, so I'm just particularly sensitive to those sorts of things. Anyway, Hungarian aside, I use full and complete names. Pascal case or camel case depending on context. The only abbreviation I use is "Id".

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                        lewax00
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                        Vark111 wrote:

                        I'm on a crusade at my workplace to stamp out Hungarian

                        Well in a decent IDE it's mostly redundant now anyways, you can generally just hover over the variable to find out what its type is.

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          I usually use GUIDs for a variable names – secure and consistent.

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                          Lost User
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                          I do so as well; however, I refer to them as GloballyUniqueIdentifiers.

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                          • R RJOberg

                            At least I don't use x or y like some of those other sorts of people. :laugh:

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                            Clumpco
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                            I seem to remember using a version of Basic (TRS-80?) where i and j were predeclared integers and x, y floats?? Or maybe I was dreaming...

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                              I seem to remember using a version of Basic (TRS-80?) where i and j were predeclared integers and x, y floats?? Or maybe I was dreaming...

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                              xiecsuk
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                              Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                              Wagham I'm just too old to really give a damn!!

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                              • L Lost User

                                I once used Hungarian notation in a project and another developer looked at it, rolled his eyes, and then sighed 'oh, Hungarian notation'. He was one of those self-aggrandizaing pricks who looked down on everyone else. He eventually went off and got a job at a prestigious company earning twice what I make. I hate that guy. :-D

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                                Jonathan C Dickinson
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                                MehGerbil wrote:

                                earning twice what I make.

                                Because the code fairies saw no reason to punish him because he did not use hungarian notation. It's like an OSS project I worked on - the hungarian notation for a class was 'x' followed by a capital letter (which is two extra keystrokes). Pretty-much everything was a class and therefore 'x' was used for pretty-much any variable. It added absolutely no value to the quality of the code because everything was just 'x'. New developers would think that we just added them in front of everything so they didn't ever use the usual 'i', 'd', 'f', 'h' etc. It was completely wrong in the first place because a 'reference type' (class) should be an 'h' because it's a pointer. I only have a limited amount of keystrokes available in my life and I quickly decided to expend them on other things. Some nights I dream about each dying kitten as a developer uses hungarian notation. I don't think the code fairies will ever forgive me: the dreams won't stop.

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                                • X xiecsuk

                                  Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                                  Wagham I'm just too old to really give a damn!!

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                                  Clumpco
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                                  xiecsuk wrote:

                                  Not at all. Fortran had pre-declared integer and float variables.

                                  Of course! How could I have forgotten that?

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    "x" and "y" are perfectly valid variables: particularly when you are talking about co-ordinates:

                                    foreach (Control c in Controls)
                                    {
                                    c.Location = new Point(x, y);
                                    x += horizontalSpacing;
                                    y += verticalSpacing;
                                    }

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                                    Kabwla Phone
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                                    *ONLY when you are talking about co-ordinates. Fixed that for you.

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                                      After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                      Stefan_Lang
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                                      I use VisualAssist for VS which lets me type acronyms (such as ocn) and immediately offers a selection of valid symbol names in a pop down list, including pretty much all of your above suggestions. Therefore I always use full names, even if that results in veryLongVariableNames. I still wonder whether to use camel case or separate words by '_' instead. I feel I should be doing the latter, but am loathe to change style while working on the same project. ;)

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                                        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                        Merlin87
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                                        I found out, that using longer, but more descriptive names is the best way. I know, commenting is a good thing - but - who does it really as it should be? Also it depends if is just a trial or a definitive thing.

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                                          After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                          I've had to work with some real turkeys in my time. At one place there was a developer that named all his routines after Disney characters.

                                          BALR 8, GOOFY

                                          At another place consultants had created alphabet soup.

                                          int Routine(a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i)

                                          One person I worked with believed all variables and routine names should be 8 characters long (if possible). You take 8 divided by the number of words in the full description to get the number of letters to use from each word. So the print spooler was called

                                          PRINSPOO

                                          Not so bad, but Shipping Station Control Loop became...

                                          SHSTCOLO

                                          Another believed in using the maximum number of letters allowed by the compiler. So he'd come up with goofy stuff like

                                          FireHunterSeekerBlowBackTo

                                          Which didn't even work as a comment. The worst part was that he couldn't speel :) so these long ass variable named routines and variables would have to misspelled everywhere they were used. So you had to remember the long names and how to misspell them. Myself, I like to go with what works. Sometimes I use Hungarian, mostly for controls, but sometimes for variables if I think it will help me remember the limitations of the type. I don't believe in enforced standards. I believe in consensual styles. Development environments change too much over the years and straitjackets are only for the insane.

                                          Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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